Y'all see the man hanging out of the spaceship with the really big gun? Now I'm not saying you weren't easy to find. It was kinda out of our way, and he didn't want to come in the first place. Man's lookin' to kill some folk. So really it's his will y'all should worry about thwarting.

Mal ,'Safe'


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Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2009 6:37:12 pm PST #11031 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

What about a Scottish Doctor? Or Welsh? Or Irish? Still out of the question?


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 20, 2009 6:40:22 pm PST #11032 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

For some reason Welsh would seem more natural to me than Scottish or Irish. The other two seem to have more strongly separate national identities.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:43:23 pm PST #11033 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish--still British.


Typo Boy - Nov 20, 2009 6:46:24 pm PST #11034 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Umm, Isn't Northern Ireland specifically not Britain, even if it is part of the UK?


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 6:54:44 pm PST #11035 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I use the word British to mean UKian, for lack of another word. I hope I'm not causing offense.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 7:05:29 pm PST #11036 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wikipedia says that citizens of the UK are properly called British, which is what I always figured. Great Britain doesn't include any Ireland but the British Isles do. So I stand by my statement.


beekaytee - Nov 20, 2009 7:29:25 pm PST #11037 of 30001
Compassionately intolerant

I just don't see any reason to remake it.

This is what I meant. I wasn't applying the same British preference as DW.

Not sure why this is coming to mind, but I'd hate even more for my favorite Brit quizzes, Nevermind the Buzzcocks and QI to be Americopied.

Frankly, I just want us to be smarter and funnier than we are.


Dana - Nov 20, 2009 7:41:18 pm PST #11038 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I figure we have The Daily Show, and that's as close to QI as we need to get.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2009 7:52:12 pm PST #11039 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think Britain could have done Buffy, so you get different things from different cultures.

Unrelatedly, damn, is Henry ever gay for Big Guy.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 21, 2009 12:29:39 am PST #11040 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Most Northern Irish people call themselves British. Except for the ones who call themselves Irish. It's, y'know, a political place.

An Irish Doctor would rock in the same way an Irish James Bond did (but I am nationally biased there). Not sure about Welsh. But then, I didn't think the Welsh setting of Torchwood would work, but I was wrong. (The Welsh still suffer more than the other Celtic nations from Celt-bashing by the English, which in the case of the Welsh has turned into a lot of mockery. The English: not a people I associate myself with.)

How DW plays with history, mucks about, makes ordinary objects fantastical, and mocks most kinds of authority while still respecting others – it’s just British down to its bones.

Hee. I love that description of the show's Britishness.