Simon: Captain... why did you come back for us? Mal: You're on my crew. Simon: Yeah, but you don't even like me. Why'd you come back? Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?

'Safe'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Strega - Nov 16, 2009 12:16:59 pm PST #10884 of 30001

I think my problem with The General is that it turns into a Star Trek episode.

But Many Happy Returns & Free For All are among my favorites. Helo's "escape" from the Cylons in 33 always reminded me of the end of MHR. 'Cause, well, it sucks for him... but it's also pretty funny.


Polter-Cow - Nov 16, 2009 12:28:02 pm PST #10885 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think my problem with The General is that it turns into a Star Trek episode.

Ha!! It totally does. You're right.

But Many Happy Returns & Free For All are among my favorites.

I always forward past the credits (but watch the post-title credits with the new No. 2), and I wished I'd watched them for MHR so I could properly recognize his car and his house. (In "The Chimes of Big Ben," Nadia claimed the Village was in Lithuania, but in MHR they calculated it to be around Morocco. We already know Nadia was lying, but I'm surprised that they would actually reveal the location of the Village. Was there something I missed that implied that they might have been flying him NOT to Morocco?)


Typo Boy - Nov 16, 2009 12:32:48 pm PST #10886 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

>“The original says we must assert our individuality: ‘I am a free man,’ ”he said. “But one thing that interests me is that perhaps we have become too individualistic.”

FAIL.

An anti-prisoner could be interesting. There are problems with the concept of the lone unbending uncompromising hero that can develop into totalitarianism in its own way. For example a story where the Prisoner, and the hiearchy battle it out, and then at the end it turns out there is a rebellion of faceless minor characters who were able to organize an escape while glorious leaders were distracted by fucking with the Prisoner's head could make for a good mini-series - much better than the current AMC remake which wastes some really good acting and art direction.


evil jimi - Nov 16, 2009 3:20:14 pm PST #10887 of 30001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

R.I.P. Edward Woodward. :-(


Frankenbuddha - Nov 16, 2009 3:24:43 pm PST #10888 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

There are problems with the concept of the lone unbending uncompromising hero that can develop into totalitarianism in its own way.

Hello, Ayn Rand!


DCJensen - Nov 16, 2009 5:20:47 pm PST #10889 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The first episode of The Prisoner I ever saw was "Living in Harmony." (The Western)

To say I was confused is an understatement.

ETCorrect title.


Jessica - Nov 16, 2009 5:31:37 pm PST #10890 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I haven't seen tonight's eps, but so far I'm really digging the break-him-with-Stockholm-Syndrome methods that this Number Two is using. As much as I loved the break-him-by-interrogation-and-random-druggings of the original, I'm glad they're not trying to recreate that. (Though I am pretty sure everyone in The Village is being drugged all the time - there's probably something in the wraps.)

[Also, The Village still reminds me of Roosevelt Island. Or rather, Roosevelt Island still reminds me of The Village. It's creepy.]


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2009 5:33:17 pm PST #10891 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't believe TV Guide managed to make Morena look even more creepy beautiful. That's some lighting. And, uh, PhotoShop, I'm sure.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 16, 2009 6:30:38 pm PST #10892 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The first episode of The Prisoner I ever saw was "Living in Harmony." (The Western)

To say I was confused is an understatement.

Heh. Oh yeah.


Typo Boy - Nov 16, 2009 8:57:29 pm PST #10893 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I had only seen a bit of the new Prisoner when I commented. Overall, I'm enjoying it. I'm also (unspoiledly) speculating that between drugs and mind control (and maybe VR) the entire village is on one floor of the company #6 works for.