Harmony: Somebody remembered to pick me up the sweetest unicorn. Guess someone was feeling guilty for standing me up in tenth grade. Brad: What? Had to get her something. She sired me. Peaches: Sire-whipped.

'Beneath You'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


le nubian - Nov 15, 2009 7:53:40 pm PST #10862 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah, I don't like Caveziel at all - I don't think he's a great actor, but McKellan is great.

At a dramatic moment, I yelled "I am Gandalf the White!"


Burrell - Nov 15, 2009 7:55:53 pm PST #10863 of 30001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I didn't realize it was 2 hours however. I might have to go to bed before I finish watching it. My sicky self needs rest.


Vortex - Nov 15, 2009 9:03:47 pm PST #10864 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I love Ian McKellen, but I want to know what the fuck is up with the wraps?

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole idea trying to convince Number 6 that he's crazy.


Polter-Cow - Nov 15, 2009 9:42:31 pm PST #10865 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, I just watched an episode where they tried to convince Number 6 that he was actually Number 12 impersonating Number 6, so "crazy" seems like small potatoes.

io9 gave the new series a terrible review, so I'll wait to see what the verdict is from you guys. I'm enjoying the old series so far. Close to halfway through.


Fiona - Nov 15, 2009 10:09:15 pm PST #10866 of 30001

Doctor Who: I liked the short-lived badassedness of Ten, and I'm glad it was kept short. In the Confidential, RTD pointed out that that's the sort of superiority complex which turns you into The Master, and we really don't need the Doctor going there for anything more than a couple of minutes. As DT said, pride comes before a fall... .

Super strong episode, loved Lindsay Duncan and the supporting cast .

I am a little upset at the BBC, who obviously moved the original air date, thus making all the references to 21st November just a bit off .


Maysa - Nov 15, 2009 10:31:11 pm PST #10867 of 30001

Doctor Who: I also liked his badassery - mainly because I sort of agreed with it. Well, I guess it was more that I could see both sides. On the one hand maybe screwing with these laws about time is like screwing with nature or the environment (a bad idea)- but on the other hand, maybe time laws are like some sort of preordinated destiny, which as a concept kind of sucks, so, why not fight fate?

Also, the moment where he said, "We're fighting time itself and I'm GOING TO WIN!" was really awesome. Then, unfortunately, he went insane.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 15, 2009 10:43:24 pm PST #10868 of 30001
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Doctor Who stuff follows.

Re: P-C and DCJensen's discussion: I thought the final webpages highlighted the 'fact' that Adelaide died on the base. It seemed to me that the other two had found her, managed a cover-up, and told the world only half the real story. I'm going to have to go back and pause the webpages... But, yes, telling the story of the Doctor - interesting. Wonder if there'll be fallout from that in the future-future.

Things I absolutely adored: "State your name, rank and intention." "The Doctor. Doctor. Fun." (Heh.) The Doctor meeting someone who is obviously one of his major heroes, and his brilliant responses to that. The refit of Gadget-Gadget to flaming speed-bike, Doctor and Adelaide on the back of it. The total wonderful weirdness of the water monsters. The 'oh dear God don't let the water touch you' tension (I may never take a shower in a non-hermetically-sealed room again). The Utopia/drums/Master theme playing as the Doctor did the Ultimate Time Lord bit (if I correctly spotted that).

Things I wonder: "He will knock four times." Whose prophecy is this? The Ood's? I can't remember. They've really stretched out the death thing (they've been predicting it for, what, at least two seasons?) - but it's clear the Doctor thinks he's headed for a final death, not a regeneration. Which is going to be interesting when (SPOILER, FOR ANYONE WHO'S BEEN TRAPPED IN A FROZEN LAKE ON MARS FOR THE PAST YEAR) he's proved wrong. (I almost wish they'd not made the Matt Smith thing so public. It would have been fun to wonder whether the Doctor had a future or not. Especially with 2+ years worth of references to his 'journey coming to an end' and so forth.) Wish we could have Doctor go evil and be killed by a former companion. Not going to happen, but what fun.

Things I can't wait for (SPOILERS - all taken from the preview for the Christmas special): Donna! Wilf! THE MASTER! I may have to plan Christmas around this one.


Fiona - Nov 16, 2009 12:07:06 am PST #10869 of 30001

Seska, to answer your question:

the "knock four times" thing was said to the Doctor by the clarivoyant woman on the Magic Double-Decker Bus in the last special, whatever its name was, the one with Michelle Ryan .


JenP - Nov 16, 2009 5:15:09 am PST #10870 of 30001

Dr. Who: Seska, the final shot of Adelaide's web page pulls in on the words "died on Mars," and we see it change to "Earth" instead.

Liked this one lots for all reasons stated above. Cannot wait for the Christmas special!


Tom Scola - Nov 16, 2009 5:27:15 am PST #10871 of 30001
hwæt

There's also an animated Doctor Who episode coming out.

Dreamland is the second animated Doctor Who serial based on the British science fiction television live action series. It will star David Tennant as the Tenth Doctor and air in six parts (one 12 minute episode, followed by five 6 minute episodes) broadcast daily from 21 November 2009. It is due to be broadcast in its entirety on BBC Two and BBC HD on 5 December 2009.