Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Nov 10, 2009 4:52:45 pm PST #10755 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You kids with your Lost. Offa my lawn! Be seeing you!

Rover is scarier in the new version. (Still fairly inexplicable as a choice of weapon, but definitely scarier.)


Typo Boy - Nov 10, 2009 5:00:01 pm PST #10756 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The ep order on On Demand works well enough. Watch the first two first, (actually the first three) then keep watching forward, skipping if you get bored, but watch at least some of the others because there is a lot of fun. When you are ready for the end, watch "Living in Harmony" and the two part ending. The actual last episode is great. The 2nd to the last, mixed, but you need it to follow the last episode.


megan walker - Nov 10, 2009 5:03:45 pm PST #10757 of 30001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

::laughs at the idea that I might not watch every single episode in order


Steph L. - Nov 10, 2009 5:06:39 pm PST #10758 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Be seeing you!

Since (1) I never watched The Prisoner (though I know that's a reference), and more importantly, (2) I just watched about 7 episodes of S2 Buffy over the weekend, it makes me think of Ethan Rayne.

ION -- tonight's episode of V: I have to say that the show did a good job of racheting up the paranoia, because I expected every! single! person! to be a LIZARD ALIEN! Crochety Old Priest: LIZARD! Pretty FBI Agent Who Questioned conflicted!priest: LIZARD! Auto Mechanic: LIZAR...oh, wait. He *is* a lizard.

I don't know what's creepier -- the idea of someone being a lizard, or being a sympathizer. Which, I guess, goes back to the original miniseries' Nazi allusions.

And oh! Anna's right-hand lizard guy said something about "the first uprising" -- shout-out to the original miniseries?

Sweet young blonde lizard looks so much like Charlize Theron, it's creepy.

So, I'ma stick with it for at least the next 2 episodes. Like I said, I'm a sucker for the conflicted-priest storyline. (Yes, that's seriously the biggest reason I'm sticking with it. And because Morena Baccarin is just stunning. And creepy.)


Typo Boy - Nov 10, 2009 5:29:59 pm PST #10759 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

:laughs at the idea that I might not watch every single episode in order

Hey, I did not skip either. But some people may not be grabbed by it, but still curious to see the end. (Actually I lie. The body switching episode made me cringe so badly I quit not very far into into it. But I watched the rest)


Vonnie K - Nov 10, 2009 7:00:35 pm PST #10760 of 30001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Pretty FBI Agent Who Questioned conflicted!priest: LIZARD!

This made me laugh because that actress played a freakin' CYLON in BSG. I mean, talk about "aliens with human faces among us" trope mashing against each other! I'm going to be so confused if she *doesn't* turn out to be a lizard.

Father Jack and Erica actually have decent chemistry together, so I don't foresee myself getting off that train to hell any time soon.


Strega - Nov 10, 2009 8:12:55 pm PST #10761 of 30001

I would strongly caution you to not approach The Prisoner like it's a contemporary show with a season-long arc in which the characters will develop, and clues will be revealed, and mysteries will deepen but finally be resolved.

The order, honestly, is not going to make anything more or less meaningful. It's nice to watch the first episode first and the last two at the end for obvious reasons, but as far as what the show's actually about? Nothing that matters is going to be affected by continuity. The fact that fans can spend hours arguing about the correct order is a blinking neon sign that it's completely unimportant.


Polter-Cow - Nov 10, 2009 9:50:10 pm PST #10762 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

::laughs at the idea that I might not watch every single episode in order

Oh, of course! The problem is determining which order.

The fact that fans can spend hours arguing about the correct order is a blinking neon sign that it's completely unimportant.

Heh. Yeah, I don't understand how any sort of "order" can be meaningful if there's no real continuity. The aired order is the most convenient, but I am considering the KTEH order since it is reportedly approved by Patrick McGoohan.

I'm still digging V. I feel like it's more solid and sure of itself than FlashForward. And I'm glad we get more Alan Tudyk!


Typo Boy - Nov 10, 2009 10:31:06 pm PST #10763 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

The Prisoner has more of an overall arc than most of the era. But about 2/3rds are "plot of the week" (equivalent of monster of the week). Also there are some things that look like discontinuties but are either explained or retconned towards the end. (The series was short enough that I expect planned from the beginning). On the other hand, avoiding spoilers some of the things that happen at the end make zero sense in light of the rest of the show. But then again the end is pretty Dadaist or at least some sort of absurdism.


Steph L. - Nov 11, 2009 3:14:09 am PST #10764 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm still digging V. I feel like it's more solid and sure of itself than FlashForward. And I'm glad we get more Alan Tudyk!

Poor Steve the Pirate. I may never be able to watch Dodgeball again without expecting him to flip out like a mammal and kill someone.

Father Jack and Erica actually have decent chemistry together, so I don't foresee myself getting off that train to hell any time soon.

True dat.