Buffy: Dancing with you is way better than trying to hook up with some good-looking guy. Xander: I think I liked it more when you were kicking me in my puffy groin.

'Get It Done'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Consuela - Mar 16, 2008 1:38:30 pm PDT #1046 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Oh, awesome: Lithiumdoll posted an SCC vid, here: [link]

Lovely and complex.


quester - Mar 16, 2008 5:36:42 pm PDT #1047 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

The thing that really struck me during my multiple viewings of this ep of Torchwood, was how lovely and evocative the music was. It really enhanced the sadness.


Juliebird - Mar 16, 2008 5:44:25 pm PDT #1048 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

I'm head over heels in love with that SCC vid, not only for the awe-inspiring wondrousness of the editing, but also because it deals with the most fascinating aspect of SCC (IMO) in the juxtaposition of Cameron's behavior with everyone else's, especially Derek's.


Polter-Cow - Mar 16, 2008 7:30:00 pm PDT #1049 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Juliebird, my comment was that I loved how it showed the way Cameron is learning from a very odd set of role models.


Juliebird - Mar 16, 2008 7:39:41 pm PDT #1050 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

hee.


Kevin - Mar 16, 2008 7:46:49 pm PDT #1051 of 30001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

No probs, bonny. I bring the procrastination everywhere I go, like the lurgy!


lisah - Mar 17, 2008 4:40:18 am PDT #1052 of 30001
Punishingly Intricate

So "A Day in the Death" aired tonight?

And my dvr cut off the last couple of minutes. Could someone recap? Owen was up on the roof w/ the suicidal lady and he's showing her the glowy thingy.


SailAweigh - Mar 17, 2008 4:48:53 am PDT #1053 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm finally getting caught up with TW. Watched 2.01 through 2.04 yesterday. I'm having a hard time telling if they're trying to set up Jack/Ianto or Jack/Gwen. Sometimes, both in the same episode. Too many yearning looks, innuendo and subtext. I hope it all pays off by the end of the season.

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang was, of course, scads of fun. JM gives good leer and lip wibble. Lip gloss and poodles! Lot's of memorable moments for that one, but until the very end, not a lot of payoff. Looking forward to that in a big way! Oh, and Jack died, again. What night does this air? Because it must be that night. And, harking back to the end of season one and what appears to me to tie into an emerging theme of this season, is it a sacrifice if you can't die?

Sleeper, at first, seemed like it was just another alien invasion foiled by TW. It was sad and affecting that Beth was able to hold on to enough humanity to sacrifice herself in the end. It raises the questions of what is it to be human, that makes one human?

Then came To the Last Man, with Tom and Tosh. I wasn't sold on Tosh being so gaga over the guy, having only known him for what amounted to four days of his life. But, the episode worked in the fact that by the end, despite his fear, Tom did what was needed to save the world at the expense of his life. He was someone else who had to sacrifice themselves for the sake of humanity.

Meat, which is what I've seen through so far, didn't seem it was going to have an overwhelming message. Rhys took a bullet for Gwen, which while showing us how committed Rhys is to Gwen, didn't result in ultimate sacrifice. Owen commited euthenasia, which begs the question, was this sentient being's death a sacrifice for the sake of humanity or just for the lives of TW? Did Owen have the right to choose for him? What will be the fallout from it? Is man, without sacrifice, just more meat?

At least, I've got all those questions until I get into more of the episodes. I've read a bit of the whitefont on the current episodes, because I am weak, but I haven't read enough to see how it's all playing out.

eta: It could be, too, that since I watched Pan's Labyrinth this weekend, my mind is overly set on sacrificing oneself.


Fred Pete - Mar 17, 2008 5:12:57 am PDT #1054 of 30001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm having a hard time telling if they're trying to set up Jack/Ianto or Jack/Gwen. Sometimes, both in the same episode.

In this series, it doesn't have to be either/or. Except that Rhys would be furious if he ever found out about Jack/Gwen.

I'm starting to see a theme of "Is death the worst thing that can happen?" "Meat" also suggests that death (for the alien) may have been a mercy. Jack (being unable to die) and Owen (dying and coming back -- incomplete?) raise the question in their own ways. Parker in the latest BBCA ep, remembering the good things in life but being able only to lay in a bed connected up to tubes -- as well as being so afraid of death that he'd risk losing the world for a little longer. The amnesia pills might be stretching things a little bit, but the loss of a memory isn't unlike a death -- so Gwen's confession of an infidelity as she was giving Rhys the pill.

(And I still want to see how an outsider's knowing -- and the outsider being an SO of a TW member -- affects the various dynamics. But that's another issue.)


SailAweigh - Mar 17, 2008 5:30:17 am PDT #1055 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

In this series, it doesn't have to be either/or.

That does seem to be the way they're working things for Jack. OTOH, Gwen could only admit to Rhys her affair with Owen because she knew he wouldn't remember her confession. So, for Gwen, there can only be one love at a time. At least, from her POV. I'm not sure about anyone else, yet, because we've never really seen Tosh, Owen or Ianto given simultaneous choices. At least with Ianto, there is always the possibility of setting something up with another. Remember, I haven't seen all of season two, yet, so there could be some personal dynamics I'm not caught up on yet (even peeking at the whitefont.)