Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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le nubian - Oct 22, 2009 4:07:19 pm PDT #10444 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Steph,

that last use of music was annoying. I'm in agreement.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2009 4:41:30 pm PDT #10445 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

that last use of music was annoying. I'm in agreement.

It reminded me WAY too much of the use of "Over the Rainbow" in one of the many fight scenes in Face/Off (which also annoyed me).

So was Janis' last gasp, lying there bleeding from a gut shot, her actual last gasp, or did she just pass out? Opinions?

I mean *Wesley* survived a gut shot...


le nubian - Oct 22, 2009 4:57:39 pm PDT #10446 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

no WAY is she dead. no way.

I won't believe it until I see her pronounced dead and see her blue on an ME's table.


Jon B. - Oct 22, 2009 5:18:53 pm PDT #10447 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If President Coyote resigns within the next six months, he'd still be called "President" and would still get Secret Service protection, right? That could make the Senator/VPs flashforward claim true.

Also, who was the polygraph guy at the beginning? The actor looked familiar.


Jon B. - Oct 22, 2009 5:47:49 pm PDT #10448 of 30001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Oh, I also wasn't crazy about the use of music at the end, but they made up for it by using Clocky!


le nubian - Oct 22, 2009 5:54:53 pm PDT #10449 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

it jumps off your nightstand? No!


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2009 5:59:18 pm PDT #10450 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, Clocky made me giggle.

Not at the end, when it was wheeling around in her blood, but when her date gave it to her at the gallery.


§ ita § - Oct 22, 2009 7:14:32 pm PDT #10451 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why is Clocky going off all the time? It's not much better than her other alarm clock.

The songover made me laugh. I liked the gunfight just fine, but the music was hysterical. On the other hand I adored it in Face/Off.

I'm still of the opinion that all the flashforwards we've seen are true, but all the ones we've not mightn't be. Jon's scenario might work, though, since I'm not sure why she'd lie.


Steph L. - Oct 22, 2009 7:16:07 pm PDT #10452 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm still of the opinion that all the flashforwards we've seen are true

You know what? Mark annoys me, but I *really* don't want to see him start drinking again. For *his* sake, not mine as a viewer.

I suppose that's called good storytelling. (At least, it got *me* to buy in.)


§ ita § - Oct 22, 2009 7:37:35 pm PDT #10453 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Between that and Demetrius's demise I do want to be proven wrong. But Mrs. Benford can have an affair. Who wouldn't want to sleep with Simcoe?

I loved the look on Noh's face during the gunfight. Everyone feels they can't die if they saw something, but I think he feels extra that he can't die because he knows precisely when he's supposed to.

I just remembered about the drug dealer who said he was all pimped out in his flashforward. I wondered at the time if he sued for police brutality because Noh hit him out of hand. But that's another credibility question.