Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Nov 30, 2007 8:30:33 am PST #4699 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

shrift, do you get monthly free lunch or weekly?

Monthly. And often it's something kind of gross, but not today! I think I'm going back upstairs to see if I can snurch some leftovers for dinner, too.


Kat - Nov 30, 2007 8:33:33 am PST #4700 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

From NPR Monitor Mix, where Brownstein continues her critique:

Part of me feels that Rock Band is yet another example of our culture's increased tolerance of phoniness, whether for the sake of simplicity or out of sheer denial. It's certainly easier to pretend to make art or to speak the truth than to actually do either.

I think my ish is that for many people who play RB or GH, they have no delusions that they are in a real band. I doubt that they think they are making art. They are playing a GAME. And the game is fun for them on its own merits.


Gudanov - Nov 30, 2007 8:33:43 am PST #4701 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Maybe people have been complaining because they can't find the drugs and sex-crazed groupies.

You've changed man, it used to be about the gameplay.


Jesse - Nov 30, 2007 8:38:54 am PST #4702 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I think my ish is that for many people who play RB or GH, they have no delusions that they are in a real band. I doubt that they think they are making art. They are playing a GAME. And the game is fun for them on its own merits.

Like how people who play games where you're driving a car don't think they are actually going any where?


lisah - Nov 30, 2007 8:39:31 am PST #4703 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Did you read the Carrie Brownstein article in Slate about Rock Band? How GH and RB are nothing like being in a real rock band and are therefore inferior?

I didn't read it but I read our mutual GH-obsessed friend's take on it. And, yeah, it seems ridiculous.

It's certainly easier to pretend to make art or to speak the truth than to actually do either.

Nobody I know who is into GH or Rock Band think they are making 'art' with it! They are playing games! God that's pretentious.

What's funny is that friends of mine who are GREAT guitar players (the guitarist from my band, for example) are terrible GH players. The skills just don't really translate.

People who are good at it seem to be people who are good at video games!


lisah - Nov 30, 2007 8:39:54 am PST #4704 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Like how people who play games where you're driving a car don't think they are actually going any where?

HAHAHA


shrift - Nov 30, 2007 8:42:14 am PST #4705 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Aaaand I'm back to wanting to punch people in the face. Lunch glee was short-lived.


Gudanov - Nov 30, 2007 8:44:17 am PST #4706 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

It's fun to translate the comments to other types of games.

Part of me feels that Oblivion is yet another example of our culture's increased tolerance of phoniness, whether for the sake of simplicity or out of sheer denial. It's certainly easier to pretend to chop up zombies or to dodge fireballs than to actually do either.


Kat - Nov 30, 2007 8:44:42 am PST #4707 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Well, yeah. I immediately thought of Grand Theft Auto. How many of those folks think they are actually stealing and driving a car?

shrift, there IS Glee in face punching.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2007 8:47:39 am PST #4708 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

there IS Glee in face punching.

Hell, yes.

I've heard that being a krav black belt doesn't help that much with Wii boxing, which must be frustrating.