Spike: I'm not a monster. Xander: Yes! You are a monster. Vampires are monsters! They make monster movies about them! Spike: Well, yeah. Got me there.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 12:57:08 pm PST #3344 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I bought an entire unit of Twix for a craving that proved sated with one bit. On the upside it did give me a chance to have my Old Navy wrap dress complimented by one of the office fashion cognoscenti (it's a weird sensation when it feels like it's the first time I'm writing a word I know perfectly well) (oh, and she's probably not one of, more like the cognoscente).

That's a lotta extra Twix.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 12:59:31 pm PST #3345 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My ZIP code is quite educated, yet has above average number of people below the poverty line.


Strega - Nov 20, 2007 1:27:42 pm PST #3346 of 10001

To a Briton pointing out that something is nonsense, rubbish, tosh or logically impossible in its own terms is not an attack on the person saying it – it’s often no more than a salvo in what one hopes might become an enjoyable intellectual tussle.

I think in the U.S. there's a more emphasis on the idea that one should avoid causing offense by even stating one's own beliefs, much less criticizing someone else's. And there are reasons for that; this is a much more diverse society. My sense is that the UK is tilted more toward the "if you take offense, that's your problem." Not that it's impossible to offend a Brit, but it does seem to require a little more effort. Or Chris Morris.


Jesse - Nov 20, 2007 1:38:40 pm PST #3347 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Unfortunately, saying "eat a muffin whitey" to one's cow-workers is somewhat embarrassing.

Don't I know it!


Scrappy - Nov 20, 2007 1:38:55 pm PST #3348 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think the UK is more tilted to "You are not your ideas." So if a person tells you a particular idea is stupid, it doesn't mean YOU'RE stupid. I got the impression Fry was talking about a dinner party where we might not know everyone well (or at all), not among close friends or family. I do think arguing with someone's ideas is seen as bad manners in this country and not proper chitchat.

In America, on the other hand, asking someone what they do for a living is idle chatter, but in Europe or Britain is often never brought up among people who are just meeting.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 1:45:46 pm PST #3349 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Try being non-white and using that muffin exhortation.

Some people are so touchy.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 20, 2007 1:48:35 pm PST #3350 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Try being non-white and using that muffin exhortation.

See, I feel weird saying "eat a muffin whitey" to a black person....


Jesse - Nov 20, 2007 1:51:45 pm PST #3351 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"Eat a muffin, whitey" transcends race!


Sue - Nov 20, 2007 1:56:44 pm PST #3352 of 10001
hip deep in pie

"Eat a muffin, whitey" transcends race!

It does! I had a total "eat muffin whitey" moment a couple of weeks ago, But instead of saying to the woman who was whining that the deli was out of blueberry bagels, I just burst out laughing for no reason and looked crazy.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 1:58:31 pm PST #3353 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As a non-white, I submit y'all want a cupcake and not even a muffin. If it scales up to a cake, it's cheating to call it a muffin.