Kaylee: You're nice, too. Mal: No, I'm not. I'm a mean old man.

'Serenity'


Natter 55: It's the 55th Natter  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Strega - Nov 20, 2007 1:27:42 pm PST #3346 of 10001

To a Briton pointing out that something is nonsense, rubbish, tosh or logically impossible in its own terms is not an attack on the person saying it – it’s often no more than a salvo in what one hopes might become an enjoyable intellectual tussle.

I think in the U.S. there's a more emphasis on the idea that one should avoid causing offense by even stating one's own beliefs, much less criticizing someone else's. And there are reasons for that; this is a much more diverse society. My sense is that the UK is tilted more toward the "if you take offense, that's your problem." Not that it's impossible to offend a Brit, but it does seem to require a little more effort. Or Chris Morris.


Jesse - Nov 20, 2007 1:38:40 pm PST #3347 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Unfortunately, saying "eat a muffin whitey" to one's cow-workers is somewhat embarrassing.

Don't I know it!


Scrappy - Nov 20, 2007 1:38:55 pm PST #3348 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think the UK is more tilted to "You are not your ideas." So if a person tells you a particular idea is stupid, it doesn't mean YOU'RE stupid. I got the impression Fry was talking about a dinner party where we might not know everyone well (or at all), not among close friends or family. I do think arguing with someone's ideas is seen as bad manners in this country and not proper chitchat.

In America, on the other hand, asking someone what they do for a living is idle chatter, but in Europe or Britain is often never brought up among people who are just meeting.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 1:45:46 pm PST #3349 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Try being non-white and using that muffin exhortation.

Some people are so touchy.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 20, 2007 1:48:35 pm PST #3350 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Try being non-white and using that muffin exhortation.

See, I feel weird saying "eat a muffin whitey" to a black person....


Jesse - Nov 20, 2007 1:51:45 pm PST #3351 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"Eat a muffin, whitey" transcends race!


Sue - Nov 20, 2007 1:56:44 pm PST #3352 of 10001
hip deep in pie

"Eat a muffin, whitey" transcends race!

It does! I had a total "eat muffin whitey" moment a couple of weeks ago, But instead of saying to the woman who was whining that the deli was out of blueberry bagels, I just burst out laughing for no reason and looked crazy.


§ ita § - Nov 20, 2007 1:58:31 pm PST #3353 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As a non-white, I submit y'all want a cupcake and not even a muffin. If it scales up to a cake, it's cheating to call it a muffin.


tommyrot - Nov 20, 2007 2:10:21 pm PST #3354 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. Where I grew up the population density is 72.9 people per square mile and the population is 97% white. Where I live now it's 31,860.3/mi², 42.6% white.


flea - Nov 20, 2007 2:14:18 pm PST #3355 of 10001
information libertarian

I was looking at census.gov (which is where that site pulls the data from) and discovered that the pocket suburb of Cincinnati where my father lives is whiter (96.9% white) than the small town in rural Maine I lived in as a small child (95.9% white). I found this very depressing.