Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe.
My girlfriend hates science fiction and "war movies" so I started her with "Out of Gas."
I always start new folks out with Out of Gas. They learn to love the characters and then go back to the appropriate order. Usually with a rewatch of OoG to pick up the bits of tid they may have missed the first time out.
Hooks 'em every time.
Ok...I keep forgetting that my first episode (parts of it) was Jaynestown. I was flipping around tv, saw it, heard it was pretty good, and thought the episode was funny. After that I forgot about it. Once the dvd's were out my brother made me promise to watch something and I agreed after a lot of badgering. I still didn't make the connection untill I finally got to Jaynestown.
I almost missed FF, because the ads were rather boring, and I wasn't into BtVS, so that connection didn't draw me in. Thankfully my brother was a Buffy fan and made me watch TTJ. Which then of course gave me faith to try out Buffy, which had sounded cornball to me.
Does anyone feel like their grampa almost died, but didn't, and your're making sure to have breakfast every Sunday morning with him? (Granted, both my gramps are dead now, but if they hadn't, I'd sure be having breakfast every Sunday with [the one I didn't hate] and appreciating what I'd almost lost. Okay, so grampa's are so much more important than buffistas firefly threads, but my analogy still stands).
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Juliebird, there's pretty much nothing that would fix the whole space hooker issue with Dad. Which is too bad because he'd love the show for the same reasons I do -- Western in Space! The two great tastes that taste great together. Seriously, Dad influenced a lot of my early viewing habits, he was the one who introduced us to Doctor Who (although I'm never sure how he found it), and we'd watch reruns of serials on weekend mornings when the public broadcast channel showed them. Plus I remember watching Winchester '73 with him the first time, and Star Trek reruns. Plus professional wrestling (old school professional wrestling).
But everyone has their values and I wouldn't want him to watch the show if it made him uncomfortable.
That's too bad, askye. My own father is a born-again (crossing over from habitual Catholicism) and even he adored Firefly and I can't remember him batting an eyelash at Inara. But he also adores astronomy and somehow manages to compartmentalize creationism and scientific fact in a peaceable manner.
I'm still incredibly saddened that Jane Espensen's ep took the Inara story in the generic direction, instead of the more interesting "Yeah, we actually are a spiritual organisation that uses sex as one of our tools. Okay, so some of us are really glorified mistresses spinning a publicity yarn, but Inara believes it" and just made her a silly whore.
I wasn't even thinking about the episode where Inara has a female client No way would Dad be okay with that. or heart of Gold.
My Dad's a Christian, but I can't really say born again since he was raised up a Southern Baptist (although he attends a different denomination now).
My friend David at work is now planning to check out Buffy through Netflix because of Firefly.
My friend David at work is now planning to check out Buffy through Netflix because of Firefly.That's basically what happened with me. A co-worker dragged me to the movie. I was like "I never heard of the tv show, and I really don't want to watch the movie if I didn't watch the TV show" So glad he did. Then, for New Years Eve, we had a Firefly marathon party. Talk about mainlining a show! whoa! Loved. every. minute. After that, I started borrowing Buffy and Angel DVD's from folks (mostly ND & KT). I'm finished with Buffy, and about half so with Angel. Apparently I caught "an episode" of buffy on late night once, and saw it as a very stupid thing. Valley Girl with a stake. Turns out, I caught part of the original movie. TV show MUCH better!
Anyhow, Firefly has a special corner of my heart! LOVE IT! So much so, the Serenity movie poster is the wallpaper on my iPhone (the logo with the date).
I have a colleague who has asked to borrow Buffy DVDs based on her love of Firefly.
And Juliebird, I totally get the grandfather analogy. One thing that I really appreciate about the kerfuffle, although kerfuffle seems like the wrong word, is that it seems to have really energized the thread. I'm sorry that some feel bad about this, but I'm so happy with this discussion and so looking forward to the upcoming watch'n'post.
I'm sorry that some feel bad about this, but I'm so happy with this discussion and so looking forward to the upcoming watch'n'post.
Bizactly, as my brother would say. The renewed interest is IMHO what matters the most. The shiney new thread is a very very close fucking second.