Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...

'War Stories'


Firefly 5: That's my girl... That's my good girl.

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe.


Frankenbuddha - May 30, 2008 5:29:08 am PDT #2236 of 5292
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

She may have also have pointed up another reason it failed - not everyone likes "sink or swim" television (which Fox's schedule frelling didn't help).


WindSparrow - May 30, 2008 5:36:22 am PDT #2237 of 5292
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

not everyone likes "sink or swim" television
Too true. Most people who watch tv are looking for an amusement that will allow them to shut down their critical thinking faculties. Firefly would hardly qualify for that.


Frankenbuddha - May 30, 2008 5:45:54 am PDT #2238 of 5292
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Too true. Most people who watch tv are looking for an amusement that will allow them to shut down their critical thinking faculties. Firefly would hardly qualify for that.

That may also explain some of the problems Tim has had with his shows getting viewers (Drive and Wonderfalls much more so than The Inside, which I think was more the victim of procedural and serial killer fatigue). He tends to enjoy beginning in media res. Buffy and Angel started out more about a character in a new environment, which leads to easier explication/immersion, IMO.


Una - May 30, 2008 12:03:20 pm PDT #2239 of 5292
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

That just makes me sad. For example: I've recently obtained the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs, and started watching them last weekend. The history is fun, but (at least the first two episodes) ye gods is the writing bad. I was thinking "wow, I've been spoiled." But maybe I just expect too much from my TV.

...my mood is, however, brightened by reading those reviews. I never get tired of seeing other people discover the shiny that is our Firefly.


Laga - May 30, 2008 9:24:17 pm PDT #2240 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I know it's short notice but if o_a brings me a keyboard tomorrow we could w & p Serenity because I have a saturday off! Oh goodness it's already 11:30. I doubt we can get many people together but it's worth a try. Beuller?


omnis_audis - May 30, 2008 9:49:56 pm PDT #2241 of 5292
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

as much as I'd love to do the W n P with you, I think that is far too short of notice. For the big shebang, I'd love to have a weeks notice in Press, so as many folks as possible could join us.


Laga - May 30, 2008 9:53:59 pm PDT #2242 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

yeah you're right. People would be disappointed if they didn't check the board until Monday and they could have been here for it.


libkitty - May 30, 2008 10:31:25 pm PDT #2243 of 5292
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

You know, it's hard to get us all together. How about we have a couple of watch'n'posts?


Laga - May 30, 2008 10:34:23 pm PDT #2244 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I would be cool with that


hippocampus - May 31, 2008 1:03:05 pm PDT #2245 of 5292
not your mom's socks.

You know, it's hard to get us all together. How about we have a couple of watch'n'posts?

ooo. second.