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Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe.

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Morgana - Jan 30, 2008 5:45:19 pm PST #1400 of 5292
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

that's a good point, Morgana. Maybe because he didn't have a cause bigger than his crew before he saw Miranda.

It's just that at the beginning of the movie he's practically hostile towards Simon. And while the two of them have never been best buds, that hostile relationship felt really, really wrong.

Laga - Jan 30, 2008 5:46:25 pm PST #1401 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

that hostile relationship felt really, really wrong.

yeah, I agree

BigDuluth - Jan 30, 2008 5:46:34 pm PST #1402 of 5292
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

Oh no, totally agreed there as well. I guess it was just dramatically needed for the uninitiated people watching the movie.

BigDuluth - Jan 30, 2008 6:07:33 pm PST #1403 of 5292
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

It's always fun ya'll. Next week is War Stories! Who's up for it?

Morgana - Jan 30, 2008 6:09:35 pm PST #1404 of 5292
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Oh yeah. Despite the torture bits, which I never enjoy, I do like that episode.

libkitty - Jan 30, 2008 8:09:20 pm PST #1405 of 5292
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I missed you guys tonight, but should be here next week. I'm kind of surprised that AnotherAlaskan didn't make it tonight. I'll razz him about it tomorrow.

BigDuluth - Jan 30, 2008 8:36:18 pm PST #1406 of 5292
"I am the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world"

Yeah drag him in for next week if you have to. It's too good of an episode not to have a good crowd for it.

Miracleman - Jan 31, 2008 4:29:14 am PST #1407 of 5292
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Anybody else think he would have let him die up until Jayne asks him to make something up?

Oh, yeah. I think Mal was fully prepared to let Jayne get sucked out into space.

It was the "make something up", the acknowledgment that Jayne was ashamed of his actions enough that he didn't want the others to know what he had done that convinced Mal that there was hope for Jayne yet and earned Jayne the reprieve. Without that moment of shame...Jayne goes 'plooey out in the Black.

Laga - Jan 31, 2008 7:08:45 am PST #1408 of 5292
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think Mal was hoping Jayne would say the right thing but he was going to space him if he didn't.

I might be a few minutes late for War Stories but I'll be here.

Frankenbuddha - Jan 31, 2008 7:39:34 am PST #1409 of 5292
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Missed the W&P again, gorram it.

It's just that at the beginning of the movie he's practically hostile towards Simon. And while the two of them have never been best buds, that hostile relationship felt really, really wrong.

All it would have taken was an explanation that Simon and Mal had a serious falling out when he started bringing River along on jobs and it wouldn't have been an issue. They hinted that might be the case, but a little more explicitness that Simon had been more integrated once upon a time wouldn't have hurt.

The events of the Serenity 3-issue comic might also have made Mal less than pleased to have the Tams on board (though how that was any worse than having Jubal Early sicced on them I don't know).

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