Hey! What a surprise! Hostile 17! Can I get you a drink, Hostile 17?

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Susan W. - Nov 18, 2007 5:32:41 pm PST #4667 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Despite having to wake up at 4:00 a.m., we had a smooth trip into Tulsa today, despite Southwest's annoying new boarding system. They're not quite Dead to Me, but they are certainly On Notice. Annabel is at grandma's house, while DH and I are in a nearby hotel, the better to give our poor allergic sinuses a daily respite from cat dander. (Also, the better to unwind a bit, get some privacy, enjoy the free high-speed internet access, but who's counting?)

Showing off a bright shiny new tag from my airplane book, Sharpe's Waterloo, since it seems to encapsulate just why I connect to the series above and beyond anything to do with my fascination with the era or adoration of Sean Bean.


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2007 5:52:57 pm PST #4668 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Well sure, but that's just passing the buck. Why is it important that they learn that in a college math class, either? There are a very few students that are going to be regularly solving quadratic equations in real-world situations (engineers, physicists, etc) - but most of the people in both classes are learning that topic because people have always learned it.

I was actually just having this conversation with my officemate. Her answer to "Why do we have to learn this?" from her students is "Because you need to learn abstract reasoning skills, and math is the best way to do that. The actual subject matter doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the reasoning."

One of my friends is a professional ballet dancer. She's in a program now where they can take some college courses, in a schedule that's built around their performance schedule. (She started dancing with the professional company right out of high school.) Math was never her strong subject -- she studied enough that she did OK in the middle-level classes, but it was never something she was really great at. She took a calculus class a few years ago -- she has no need for it for a degree, there's no requirement that she take it, but she decided that it was something that she just ought to know. (That reminds me. When she started taking that class, I said that I'd sign up for a dance class, and I haven't done that yet.)


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2007 6:02:43 pm PST #4669 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Also, I'd definitely put factoring into the category of "skill" rather than "knowledge." Knowing how to factor, in and of itself, is fairly pointless for most people. However, there are lots of other things that, in order to really understand them, you need to understand quadratic equations -- things like recognizing that the arc taken by a thrown object is a parabola, or seeing how falling objects accelerate, realizing that the amount of energy it takes to move something increases at a faster rate as the velocity increases -- and factoring is a skill that's needed to acquire the knowledge of quadratic equations -- you can't really think about them that much or play around too much if you can't factor them.

I'm not sure that everybody should have to learn it at a scheduled time. But without a major overhaul of the educational system, I don't really see a good alternative.


brenda m - Nov 18, 2007 6:04:06 pm PST #4670 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I was actually just having this conversation with my officemate. Her answer to "Why do we have to learn this?" from her students is "Because you need to learn abstract reasoning skills, and math is the best way to do that. The actual subject matter doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the reasoning."

FWIW, we had a middle-school German teacher use this line on us (about his job being to teach us to learn a language, not just actual German) and we laughed and laughed. Or more precisely. never got over bitching about what a ridiculous notion that was. Man, we were a bunch of horrid little beasts. But the point being, that may not be a convincing answer to that age at least.


Hil R. - Nov 18, 2007 6:14:59 pm PST #4671 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah, I've had mixed success when I've tried that line myself.


Pix - Nov 18, 2007 6:26:06 pm PST #4672 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

{{{Laga}}} I'm sorry about your conversation with your mom, but she is the type of person who will hear your concerns, I'm sure of it. My guess is that she was thinking about the hassle of gifts without considering the emotional impact. My mom and I had a similar conversation recently, and I know it came from her desire to simplify the holidays. Once we talked, though, she agreed that maybe presents were worthwhile.

I also know how much fun you always end up having at your family events, and I bet that Thanksgiving will be wonderful. Nonetheless, hugs for you.

Laura, I'd forgotten about that, but now I'm all upset on your behalf again. I hope the boys shape up this year.


Laga - Nov 18, 2007 6:30:38 pm PST #4673 of 10002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

thanks Kristin, Laura, Zenkitty and everyone for your kind words. Against my protestations Mom called and we had a good chat/cry but now my face hurts! Do you think a decongestant would help?


DCJensen - Nov 18, 2007 6:40:35 pm PST #4674 of 10002
All is well that ends in pizza.

Sesame Street seasons 1 and 2 on DVD: Not suitable for children. [link]


Vortex - Nov 18, 2007 6:48:05 pm PST #4675 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Maybe a nice steam bath?


Laga - Nov 18, 2007 6:50:23 pm PST #4676 of 10002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

maybe a nice hot shower