I was actually just having this conversation with my officemate. Her answer to "Why do we have to learn this?" from her students is "Because you need to learn abstract reasoning skills, and math is the best way to do that. The actual subject matter doesn't matter anywhere near as much as the reasoning."
FWIW, we had a middle-school German teacher use this line on us (about his job being to teach us to learn a language, not just actual German) and we laughed and laughed. Or more precisely. never got over bitching about what a ridiculous notion that was. Man, we were a bunch of horrid little beasts. But the point being, that may not be a convincing answer to that age at least.
Yeah, I've had mixed success when I've tried that line myself.
{{{Laga}}} I'm sorry about your conversation with your mom, but she is the type of person who will hear your concerns, I'm sure of it. My guess is that she was thinking about the hassle of gifts without considering the emotional impact. My mom and I had a similar conversation recently, and I know it came from her desire to simplify the holidays. Once we talked, though, she agreed that maybe presents were worthwhile.
I also know how much fun you always end up having at your family events, and I bet that Thanksgiving will be wonderful. Nonetheless, hugs for you.
Laura, I'd forgotten about that, but now I'm all upset on your behalf again. I hope the boys shape up this year.
thanks Kristin, Laura, Zenkitty and everyone for your kind words. Against my protestations Mom called and we had a good chat/cry but now my face hurts! Do you think a decongestant would help?
Sesame Street seasons 1 and 2 on DVD: Not suitable for children.
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OK had a shower, face feels better. Had some time to contemplate the fact that it is tough being the mom. Everybody dumps on her and she has noone to dump on. So sometimes she does crazy shit. Like forward your emails to the person you were talking about. For instance ...
"Last year I got Meg slippers that I had to go to three different
stores for. When I finally found them they were on sale so I was able
to buy her a bottle of Vodka and then I saw a bunch of flavored vodkas
in a candy cane shaped plastic thingy by the checkout line so I had to
get them too. (I always go over). I guess I should have known how
little my gift meant to her by the fact that she never opened the
candy-cane of vodkas"
and then I got...
"Thank you so much for my Christmas presents last year. I didn't mean to not drink the flavored vodkas, I forgot about them and was only reminded of them when I saw the empty bottles on the counter in the kitchen. I apologize for forgetting about them. Please forgive me."
Holy shit! What do I say?
Mom says, " think I've done enough damage for tonight..............I'm signing off..........."
!!!
Urp. But honestly, probably not a bad thing to have happen. I'd just say that you understand how that can happen, and of course you forgive her, but what you really want them to understand is that these gifts mean something to you, it's not just an exchange of $50.
I have to tell my roommate because he drank the vodka too. We toasted her being gone! We thought she left the vodka behind on purpose as a final "fuck you and your christmas present too!"
