No, no, no, sir. No more chick pit for you. Come on.

Riley ,'Lessons'


Spike's Bitches 38: Well, This Is Just...Neat.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Hil R. - Nov 02, 2007 8:45:47 am PDT #2130 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Where's the line between friendship and relationship, then? I just kind of assumed that it was at some kind of "potential for sex" place. I mean, that's how I'd define the difference between someone I'm really good friends with and someone I'm dating, I guess.


Trudy Booth - Nov 02, 2007 8:45:56 am PDT #2131 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

But sexuality isn't sex. One is an act the other isn't.

Ok, so a relationship can be sexual without involving actual sex.

With that framework, to be more accurate I should have said:

Sex uality isn't the defining factor of the relationships themselves, but sex uality is what makes the other relationships not monogamy.

Without that element, I'd say "real good friends" (and my grandparents would feel much better).


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 8:48:17 am PDT #2132 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I think of the "stereotypical threesome" as the straight guy version of 2 girls and him, which I don't think applies to the majority of romantic relationships involving more than 2 people.


Stephanie - Nov 02, 2007 8:50:22 am PDT #2133 of 10002
Trust my rage

So it's the "all involved know about it and are okay about it" aspect that makes it poly?

Is an "open marriage" poly, or does poly mean that all people involved have feelings for each other?


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 8:51:09 am PDT #2134 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I would think the difference in whether someone is a friend or a boyfriend/girlfriend is if you have romantic feelings for them or not.


Daisy Jane - Nov 02, 2007 8:52:27 am PDT #2135 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Is an "open marriage" poly, or does poly mean that all people involved have feelings for each other?

I would think they can, but don't have to. Though I would hope if I were in a relationship involving more than one other person that everyone at least had compatible personalities.


lisah - Nov 02, 2007 8:53:03 am PDT #2136 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

To sum up: poly is my orientation.

I don't really get this. And, it's none of my beeswax, so please feel free to ignore, but does this mean that you only want to be in relationships with more than one person? Like, if you were in a relationship with just one person it would feel as wrong to you as, say, a gay person being in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex? (And, just so you know, I'm not at all judgmental! Just curious!)


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2007 9:04:13 am PDT #2137 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is an "open marriage" poly, or does poly mean that all people involved have feelings for each other?

I would think they can, but don't have to. Though I would hope if I were in a relationship involving more than one other person that everyone at least had compatible personalities.

Poly doesn't mean spouse-approved fucking around. That, more or less, is swinging.

Poly means you have a "primary" relationship, with your spouse/main squeeze/SO/whatever, and then "secondary" relationship(s) with others; the secondary relationships may or may not be mutual with your primary partner.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think that more often than not, primary partners don't share a secondary partner, though it's also not *un*common to share.


beth b - Nov 02, 2007 9:04:13 am PDT #2138 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

So even though I am still confused, I think I know why I am not poly. Love, for me, takes time. And I am not naturally very open. But once I am in love - it is pretty much 100%. I have to be careful to remember to separate myself from the other person. I my DH is in a bad mood or grumpy or overtired, I have to remember, that although I am concerned or worried or sympathetic , I am not in the same mood. Or let his mood change mood. Being open to too many people - might drive me over the edge.


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2007 9:05:51 am PDT #2139 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

does this mean that you only want to be in relationships with more than one person? Like, if you were in a relationship with just one person it would feel as wrong to you as, say, a gay person being in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex?

I'm sure there are people for whom it feels wrong to be in a relationship with only one person, but my guess is that, for most poly people, what that simply means is that they're *open* to developing a secondary romantic relationship if such an opportunity presents itself.

t edit I'm really uncomfortably posting about this, because I'm not poly at all, but the kinky world has a lot of crossover with the poly world, so I know a lot of poly people and I've learned a good deal about it (so as not to put my foot in my mouth with a really poorly thought-out joke in social situations [which I have done in the past]).

I'm just posting because people seem to have questions, and I hate for there to be misconceptions out there, and, well, I can never seem to shut the fuck up, even when I should.