Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Oct 26, 2007 6:32:01 am PDT #8728 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Look upon my sweater and despair!


Toddson - Oct 26, 2007 6:32:39 am PDT #8729 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Look upon my sweater, o ye chilly ....


lisah - Oct 26, 2007 6:32:44 am PDT #8730 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

But then the actual recaps read like one of St. Thomas Aquinas' treatises on religion and I wake up hunched over my desk eight hours later

For some reason (because I have a very low tolerance for pretentiouswriting...my theory classes in writer school were like torture for me) I really loved Jacob's Dr. Who recaps even while I saw how they might bug others. He was just so enthusiastic about the show.


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:38:24 am PDT #8731 of 10001
Trust my rage

Totally random question for the hivemind:

Someone told me just know that in NY, if your parents aren't married when you are born, you are illegitimate. I find this hard to believe, but I have no knowledge or experience to base that on.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2007 6:39:06 am PDT #8732 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there a legal weight to being illegitimate? Inheritance-wise or something? Non-legally, I'd agree with that PoV, but it would vary state to state.


lisah - Oct 26, 2007 6:40:42 am PDT #8733 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

if your parents aren't married when you are born, you are illegitimate.

Isn't that the definition of illegitimate?


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:07 am PDT #8734 of 10001
Trust my rage

I thought that US law (obviously, not a federal law, but the states in general) had done away with the disctinctions between il/legitimate, although I guess no longer distinguishing doesn't mean the law hasn't been repealed or something like that.


brenda m - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:20 am PDT #8735 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Isn't that what illegitimate means?


Vortex - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:53 am PDT #8736 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't that the definition of illegitimate?

but is that a legal definition? and what happens if your parents get married after you're born. Are you still illegitimate?


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:42:14 am PDT #8737 of 10001
Trust my rage

I thought that "illegitimate children" were considered "not to have a father" meaning that they don't get his name and can't inherit from him.

eta: Vortex says it better than I did. That's what I was getting at - is there any legal significance to being born to unmarried parents?