You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Oct 26, 2007 6:39:06 am PDT #8732 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is there a legal weight to being illegitimate? Inheritance-wise or something? Non-legally, I'd agree with that PoV, but it would vary state to state.


lisah - Oct 26, 2007 6:40:42 am PDT #8733 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

if your parents aren't married when you are born, you are illegitimate.

Isn't that the definition of illegitimate?


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:07 am PDT #8734 of 10001
Trust my rage

I thought that US law (obviously, not a federal law, but the states in general) had done away with the disctinctions between il/legitimate, although I guess no longer distinguishing doesn't mean the law hasn't been repealed or something like that.


brenda m - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:20 am PDT #8735 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Isn't that what illegitimate means?


Vortex - Oct 26, 2007 6:41:53 am PDT #8736 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't that the definition of illegitimate?

but is that a legal definition? and what happens if your parents get married after you're born. Are you still illegitimate?


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:42:14 am PDT #8737 of 10001
Trust my rage

I thought that "illegitimate children" were considered "not to have a father" meaning that they don't get his name and can't inherit from him.

eta: Vortex says it better than I did. That's what I was getting at - is there any legal significance to being born to unmarried parents?


Sophia Brooks - Oct 26, 2007 6:43:42 am PDT #8738 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am from NY, and my parents were not married when I was born, or ever after. I also do not have a father listed on my birth certificate that I know of. As far as I know I am "illegitimate", but I don't know what this means legally at all.


sumi - Oct 26, 2007 6:51:02 am PDT #8739 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

A new adaptation of A Room with a View from the man who brought us the Firth/Ehle Pride and Prejudice - I think.


Stephanie - Oct 26, 2007 6:55:49 am PDT #8740 of 10001
Trust my rage

This is from wikipedia, in case anyone but me is interested:

Legitimacy was formerly of great consequence, in that only legitimate children could inherit their fathers' estates. In the United States, a series of Supreme Court decisions in the early 1970s abolished most, but not all, of the common-law disabilities of bastardy as violations of the equal-protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

It doesn't totally answer my question, but comes very close.


tommyrot - Oct 26, 2007 6:58:04 am PDT #8741 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

disabilities of bastardy

Great band name.

Or an excuse to call in to work: "Sorry, I have too many disabilities of bastardy to come to work today."