Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


Natter 54: Right here, dammit.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Oct 06, 2007 9:35:39 am PDT #5319 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I agree, sparky. I think it would have been MUCH more in character for Landry to call 911, and it kind of sucks that they didn't have him do that. At the same time, I think Landry so far hasn't been so much damaged as much as hopelessly dorky and clueless, and that could have gotten irritating. This at least gives him something to do other than be annoying best friend.

I also didn't like that they basically had Riggins back exactly where he was at beginning of last season, even though he changed over the season.

I have enough faith in the writers that I am willing to see where they take the okay, but less than grand start.


Sparky1 - Oct 06, 2007 10:21:49 am PDT #5320 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

FNL: I didn't like that we hardly saw Riggins! You're right about Landry not being damaged, that was lazy on my part, but I still believe the writers have done an amazing job getting me to care about what happens next without resorting to the huge plot twist because they wrote amazing depth into these characters - the plots could be relatively simple and the characters complex.

Laundry score= 3rd load in washer.


msbelle - Oct 06, 2007 10:51:39 am PDT #5321 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I feel like I was beaten last night. I must take a day off next week and just rest.

last night I was pretty productive, today nsm.


Consuela - Oct 06, 2007 11:02:01 am PDT #5322 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I got up early and ran and started laundry and mopped my living room floor. Now I have to mop the kitchen floor and do more laundry. Bah! And pay bills, double-bah. But later I get to go out for yummy Chinese food with some friends, so that'll be fun.

As for FNL, I'm with Sparky and Lee about the ending. It was disturbing and disappointing and didn't seem to fit with the characters as we knew them. Why would Landry hit the guy twice? Also, apparently the leaked version used a bottle instead of a pipe: why the change? I'm really unhappy, it just doesn't seem something Landry in particular would do, especially since his dad's a cop. Tyra, I could see, because she's got little enough trust in the system (although enough to drive to the police station when she was being followed). But not Landry.

Ah, well, we work with what we got.


Tom Scola - Oct 06, 2007 11:30:27 am PDT #5323 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

OK, I've stacked my trade paperback comics, boxed my magazine-sized comics and regular-sized comics. Now all that's left are my minicomics.


Amy - Oct 06, 2007 11:32:52 am PDT #5324 of 10001
Because books.

FNL: I'm not entirely caught up on S1, although I did watch the last few episodes in order, and the S2 premiere last night. I thought that Landry hitting the guy was perfectly reasonable for him. He's desperately in love, unsure of himself, and filled with frustration about how to show Tyra, about whether Tyra wants him, blah blah. Being flattened when this guy is attacking her, AGAIN, made that in-the-moment act of hitting him work for me. It had that sort of primal, "Oh, no, you don't. MINE," feel to it.

That said, I do agree that dumping the body was extreme and ridiculous. Landry is a cop's son, yes? He has to know that sort of thing never works. I get that he's in love, and in the moment terrified and sick, but they're really going to have to show my why he let Tyra convince him to do that.

Love the show. LOVE. I have the S1 DVDS, courtesy of Lee!, and I'm trying to catch up on the eps I missed.


Consuela - Oct 06, 2007 11:40:03 am PDT #5325 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

AmyLiz, I'm so glad you share our squee. The scene last night that really got me was when Eric told Tami he had to leave, and she just couldn't speak, and then when he was out of sight she crumpled completely. I felt so bad for her! With the new baby and bitchy daughter and challenging job and husband gone for weeks on end! And I'm not clear, but it sounded like from what Julie said they hadn't seen Eric in eight months! Is that possible? Surely he came home for weekends and so forth, right?

I also loved the scene where Eric bumped into Matt and his grandma in the grocery store, and they were all so happy to see each other. I love Grandma Saracen.


DavidS - Oct 06, 2007 11:40:11 am PDT #5326 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Now all that's left are my minicomics.

After you put them in the miniboxes, store them near Jon's miniscule theremin.

msbelle can protect them with her tiny fists.


msbelle - Oct 06, 2007 11:42:56 am PDT #5327 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

settle down there.


Amy - Oct 06, 2007 11:55:33 am PDT #5328 of 10001
Because books.

Oh, that scene was so hard, Consuela. I adore Tami. And I love both Saracen and his grandma! Saracen is just ... adorable. I want to hug him, hard.

I think that the eight months meant overall, she wasn't counting the flying weekend trips, because seriously, it's not like he was on Everest. He had to come home at some point.

It confused me at first, because I'm so used to Buffy and even Veronica Mars, I couldn't figure out how eight months had passed and it was still summer, until I realized, oh, FOOTBALL. Ended early in the year, I guess.

I need a weekend when I can mainline all of S1. I wish it could be this week, before next Friday, but ... that's not going to happen.