The next time you decide to stab me in the back... have the guts to do it to my face.

Mal ,'Ariel'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2007 12:25:23 pm PDT #4758 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

minced garlic is a perfectly acceptable pizza topping.


Strix - Oct 03, 2007 12:26:51 pm PDT #4759 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

My friend and I used to stage Barbie executions. That was always fun.

Once I discovered the Bastille, my Barbies got guillotined a lot. Viva la revolution!


Scrappy - Oct 03, 2007 12:27:32 pm PDT #4760 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

As a former NYCer, I will say that there is the same amount of International food choice here in LA--it's just a bit different, with more Latin American, less European varieties and about the same Asian. Wthin a few miles I can get Oaxacan, Peruvian, Michoacan, Guadalajaran, Guatemalan, Cuban, Honduran, and Brazilian.


Trudy Booth - Oct 03, 2007 12:27:41 pm PDT #4761 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

minced garlic is a perfectly acceptable pizza topping.

Absolutely.

I only didn't list it because it seemed more like "seasoning". (Acceptable ones of which include and are pretty much limited to: garlic, garlic powder, oregano, pepper flakes, basil, parm)


sumi - Oct 03, 2007 12:28:18 pm PDT #4762 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I used to hitch my Breyer horses up to my Barbie carrier and play "Barbie goes West." Of course, I didn't have a Barbie so much as a Francie and a Skipper.


Nutty - Oct 03, 2007 12:29:00 pm PDT #4763 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Nutty, it seems like your definition of pie is anything made with pie pastry, and that it's only pie pastry if you say so.

Pie pastry has a particular makeup: there are variations in the amount and type of fat, amount of sugar, and additional ingredients like nuts or spices, but yeah. Pie pastry (pate brisé, pate sucré) is a particular thing, and pies are made from pie pastry.

Mr. Kipling's apple pie has a shortbreadlike pastry I haven't seen outside his brand here.

Actually, I have made shortbread crusts -- used for smaller items like tarts, not for a full-sized pie. Shortbread crusts won't take the same kind of abuse that regular pie crusts will, because they have a much higher sugar quotient, and because they're patted into the pan rather than rolled. They burn quickly in the oven (boy, do they burn!), and can't usually be baked long enough for any fruit filling to cook. So you have to pre-cook any filling, and then assemble it after or at the very end of baking.

Which can be awesome, when you are making lime curd tarts. But while pies and tarts are closely related, I wouldn't call them synonyms for each other. Although clearly, Mr. Kipling would.


sumi - Oct 03, 2007 12:30:49 pm PDT #4764 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, I was watching America's Test Kitchen and they showed a cobbler that was so not what I thought a cobbler is: basically - fruit and sugar with biscuits on top. They, of course, remade it to be better but it was still: fruit and sugar with biscuits.

That can't be right, can it?


DavidS - Oct 03, 2007 12:33:53 pm PDT #4765 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't get pizza with exotic ingredients, generally.

Currently I like a combo of Italian sausage, feta, onions and mushrooms.

I've gotten really hooked on feta as a result of eating multiple feta omelets as cheap food while finishing the book. Hello salty goodness!

I do like the fancy upscale wood burning pizzas though. You can get a very nice one at Chow here in the city and you don't have to wait for two hours, and it comes with fancy schmancy Rocket and fennell and stuff. So good though. Perfect crust and fresh mozza.

Arinell is the closest local equivalent to a NY slice and I do like to get one and fold it up when I'm poking around in Berkeley. Very thin crust with a buttery deliciousness.

But I also really like deep dish when it's done well, and Zachary's in the East Bay does a very credible version.


Kat - Oct 03, 2007 12:37:17 pm PDT #4766 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Yeah, yanking Barbie's head off never stopped being fun.

Did you know if you microwave Barbie long enough, everything but her feet will melt into a puddle of goo. But her feet are amazingly resilient and will remain intact?

I'm not a fancy topping on pizza person, unless I am. What I don't get is the mixing of traditional toppings with weird exotic ones. Go one way or another, not both. One of the best pizzas I've had is in Pasadena. White pizza with spinach. SO GOOD. And I hate spinach. But the spinach is so butterygarlicyyummy that it is undeniably wonderful. LOVE.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2007 12:40:31 pm PDT #4767 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But while pies and tarts are closely related, I wouldn't call them synonyms for each other. Although clearly, Mr. Kipling would.

Mr. Kipling certainly does--his mince pies are a staple in the UK.

So I'm also guessing:

To me they're all pies.