Tara: That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and... are a total dork... Riley: Then how come Xander didn't laugh?

'Selfless'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


le nubian - May 19, 2011 6:28:24 pm PDT #7774 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Well. The Mentalist was more disturbing than usual tonight.

When people show up here who have seen the show, can you chime in? I have a question about the end.


Connie Neil - May 19, 2011 6:31:22 pm PDT #7775 of 11831
brillig

So, not your beautiful show anymore?

Not so beautiful anymore, no. I liked having Castle turn out to be competent and serious as a grace note, but on the whole a big kid whose money has given him more scope but hasn't ruined him. It was the '30s-type witty crime thing, Nick and Nora Charles and all that. But trying to maintain that for much longer would be leading down the road to farce.

The steampunk episode and the UFO/Lyle Lovett episode are things of great joy to me. The serial killer episode was a nice bit of savory in the midst of the fluff. I like witty, urbane fluff.


sumi - May 19, 2011 6:43:45 pm PDT #7776 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

Bradley Whitford?

Huh.


le nubian - May 19, 2011 6:54:34 pm PDT #7777 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

sumi,

how did he find Jane?


aurelia - May 19, 2011 7:30:39 pm PDT #7778 of 11831
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I expect Castle will regain it's levity. It's only when they're dealing with her mother's case or a multi-ep arc that things get really serious. It may be a couple episodes into the next season before we feel the lighthearted vibe again.


§ ita § - May 20, 2011 6:43:50 am PDT #7779 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I still call foul on the Bones pregnancy

What do you mean by "call foul"?

I think it was pretty disappointingly handled. If I'd been invested in the ship I'd feel very cheated. They slept together and we get no indication of changed vibes? Nowt? Pfah!

The Mentalist: Whoa! I was not expecting all that. Well, I was expecting the mole to be who it was, because it seemed to be the only way to stop the wedding, and that had to be stopped. But the reveal of Red John and his demise? Absolutely not. I thought that was the end game of the series. I can't even imagine where they go next. Jane didn't even bother to construct a self-defense scenario, where he easily could have.

As for how he found Jane, I'd only imagine he was being followed. It's the least of his magical powers, pretty much.


le nubian - May 20, 2011 6:45:21 am PDT #7780 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita, responded to your post in Lite.


Barb - May 20, 2011 7:14:15 am PDT #7781 of 11831
“Not dead yet!”

I think it was pretty disappointingly handled. If I'd been invested in the ship I'd feel very cheated. They slept together and we get no indication of changed vibes? Nowt? Pfah!

I rather enjoyed how it was handled. There were changed vibes, albeit subtle ones- that Max picked up on. It would have been very easy for the writers to construct a big, passionate scenario with the inevitable fallout as both of them struggle with their feelings, but for it to happen in the manner in which it did, where it was Brennan expressing vulnerability and sadness and loss and then the two of them sort of retreating into their shells makes perfect sense for where they're at right now. (Of course, we don't know what they've been up to in the 4-5 weeks since it happened-- whether it was a one-off or they've been horizontally mamboing, but maybe that doesn't matter.)

And to have it come back to a pregnancy, when that was something Temperance expressed a desire for two seasons back, I think is kind of poetic justice. It's what she wanted, but it's not going to be at all how or what she expected.


sumi - May 20, 2011 7:15:34 am PDT #7782 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

He planned it so that Red John would come to him. He knew that Red John was watching him. He had Lisbon use O'Laughlin's phone so that he could hear the conversation around him.


§ ita § - May 20, 2011 7:21:07 am PDT #7783 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

we don't know what they've been up to in the 4-5 weeks since it happened-- whether it was a one-off or they've been horizontally mamboing

And that's where I feel cheated. I'd like to have been able to see some difference--some tension, or some increased intimacy, or something. But the idea that there was no difference doesn't make sense to me. I don't get a payoff there.

And Max being able to tell I think was entirely scripted. The two of them have acted affectionately before as required by cover--Bones is requisitely able to suddenly understand human nuance as soon as she puts on a costume. I don't think they revealed anything there, they just had Max act like they revealed something.

Bear in mind, I'm pretending they're Mulder and Scully or Castle and Beckett or some couple I have feelings about, so there's a translation delay there for me.

If you have all that tension for years and sleep together and then...nothing...what was it all for? If there hadn't been a pregnancy, would we have known?