This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Zenkitty - Feb 02, 2010 4:31:38 pm PST #4847 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I was getting really tired of The Mentalist until ita explained that Jane is a psychopath, and then the show seemed different and I liked it better. Because I no longer have to like Jane, or anybody who likes him/condones his behavior.

That said, I'm about four episodes behind and not in any hurry to catch up.

What's the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath?


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 4:41:22 pm PST #4848 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think the text excuses him either. I can handle most of the team's loyalty to him without respecting them less, except Lisbon.

I think the show can't afford to dwell on how dark they sometimes show Jane to be--sleeping under the bloody smiley face, being committed to the psychiatric facility, before you get to his manipulation of the world around him, because they really wouldn't be able to drum up an audience with him that messed up all the time. I don't think the House magic is going to strike too often. And I certainly can't bear House.

Zen, I use them interchangeably--I don't know if that's accurate. It feels weird to use them talking about procedurals in a non-violent sense, but it's the void of emotions that I mean.


Zenkitty - Feb 02, 2010 4:48:20 pm PST #4849 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

void of emotions

That's what I'm trying to put my finger on - if Jane were devoid of emotion/human connection, he wouldn't be so shattered by the loss of his family, would he?


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 5:03:29 pm PST #4850 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think he's operating in a void because he's shattered. Hmm.

Let me think on it a bit more.

A void of emotional connections is more like it. I think that an arc for him is the developing of connections to the team, perhaps even shippy ones with Lisbon, but right now he sees other people like chess pieces, and even when he regards their emotions with interest, it's not with great empathy.


Daisy Jane - Feb 02, 2010 5:13:39 pm PST #4851 of 11831
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

me too!


Juliebird - Feb 02, 2010 5:14:53 pm PST #4852 of 11831
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

wrong thread


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 6:52:15 pm PST #4853 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gah. I'm reading now that they're going to flip The Mentalist to 9 for a couple episodes. I'm sorry I said anything. I'm so multiply booked in that hour. It's the traffic jam of my week.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 7:34:20 pm PST #4854 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No matter how much G compliments Sam's looks, they're just not as organically hoyay as, say, White Collar.

That near-kiss on NCIS proper is disgusting. She's a harridan.


Connie Neil - Feb 02, 2010 7:35:36 pm PST #4855 of 11831
brillig

That near-kiss on NCIS proper is disgusting. She's a harridan.

There is not enough wrod in the world. Please, please, please get rid of her.

edit: And how did McGee change out of his tux so quick? In the back of the van? More McGee in a tux!


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 7:50:26 pm PST #4856 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

NCIS cheated us out of changing scenes--Leverage did us good.