After the precinct shooting episode, I would definitely classify "The Mentalist" at 10pm.
Spike: Heard what happened up top, offing your dad and all. Don't know if you know this, but, uh…I killed my mum. Actually, I'd already killed her, and then she tried to shag me, so I had to-- Wesley: Thank you. I'm…very comforted.
'Lineage'
Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.
This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]
le nubian - Feb 02, 2010 1:09:19 pm PST #4837 of 11842
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 1:18:15 pm PST #4838 of 11842
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I waffle on it precisely because of Red John. When he's not on, it's 9 o'clock fare--it's sarcastic and pretty easy for the casual viewer to not realise Jane's a psychopath. But Red John is some messed up shit.
le nubian - Feb 02, 2010 2:37:09 pm PST #4839 of 11842
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
no shit, right? Yeah, the ep with speed dating was harmless enough. So I see your point. But I figure the most violent ep should be what dictates the time slot.
Zenkitty - Feb 02, 2010 3:15:01 pm PST #4840 of 11842
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
The show itself is kinda psychopathic - it goes skipping along with you hand in hand, you're having a happy fun time, and suddenly it turns to you and gives an evil smile and there's HORRIBLE CRAZY DEATH.
Liese S. - Feb 02, 2010 3:27:10 pm PST #4841 of 11842
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Hee. Why is it that sounds appealing to me? Do I need to go back to it? I dunno if I can handle the Red John stuff.
Castle is very rewatchable. I rewatched Double Down, or whatever that one was where they`re betting on the cases. Which reminded me of the question why Beckett doesn`t have a partner other than Castle. She should, right?
Juliebird - Feb 02, 2010 4:02:57 pm PST #4842 of 11842
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
It sounds awesome the way Zenkitty phrases it, but I find it to be gratingly dissonant in actuality on most ocassions. Although I did quit watching and eventually came back to it.
§ ita § - Feb 02, 2010 4:11:16 pm PST #4843 of 11842
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the main thing that alienates people from The Mentalist is the protagonist. I'm okay with him being a non-violent sociopath. But I've read a lot of dissatisfied former viewers who've grown to hate him and what they see as the text's excusing of his behaviour.
I think he's hysterical. At precisely the distance he is--aided and abetted by Simon Baker's charisma.
Dana - Feb 02, 2010 4:12:55 pm PST #4844 of 11842
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
I don't think the show excuses his behavior. Or if it does, Baker's acting against the text and doing it damn well.
Vortex - Feb 02, 2010 4:13:25 pm PST #4845 of 11842
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I agree, I have liked Jane less and less as the show has gone on.
Juliebird - Feb 02, 2010 4:25:55 pm PST #4846 of 11842
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I don't hate Jane, and I don't look at the show closely enough to feel that the show excuses his behaviour. What I do find is inconsistent writing of how amused we're supposed to be by the fights he starts (which may be "excusing his behaviour" phrased differently?), the almost non-addressing of the deeper, darker issues, and Lisbon's character (yeah, still hate her and how Tunney plays her).