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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Kathy A - Jan 08, 2010 7:42:14 am PST #4574 of 11831
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

it's not, and everyone around him knows it.

The expressions on both Ziva and Tony's faces when they hear McGee say that the guy was a Metro cop were perfect, just filled with horror and sadness for Tim and for the cop.


§ ita § - Jan 08, 2010 8:18:44 am PST #4575 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's about Gibbs teaching his team how to become the kind of people who will be able to lead teams of their own and now to make him proud

I think Gibbs treats them like children most of the time. The head-slapping is horrendous, and the constant "Really?" is disrespectful. The show has stated that Tony can lead his own team, but not that Gibbs realises it. And Weatherly deliberately portrays Tony like someone not ready to graduate. I don't think anyone will ever get promoted over him.


Hil R. - Jan 08, 2010 1:06:10 pm PST #4576 of 11831
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I just watched this week's SVU. They seem to have gone from "ripped from the headlines" to "ripped from the history books."


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2010 9:04:14 pm PST #4577 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Foyet: Now I understand that profilers think that stabbing is a substitution for the act of sex. That if somebody's impotent, they'll use a knife instead. Is that what you think, Agent Hotchner? Maybe this will change the way that you profile. [thrusts] [Hotch gasps]

I still can't tell how sexual that was supposed to be.


Zenkitty - Jan 11, 2010 3:22:45 am PST #4578 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I still can't tell how sexual that was supposed to be.

Me either. It was disturbing as hell. At the "thrust" moment, the camera was fairly tight on Foyet's face and upper chest; it was hard to tell exactly what he was doing. I think (spoiler fonted for grossness) that it was either rape or more likely wound rape, I think that's what the writers meant it to be, but they deliberately left it vague, both because they couldn't get anything that fucked-up past the censors, and because the audience might be best left to its own imagination - the more innocent among us, and those who don't really pay such close attention to dialog, might never notice the hints that some of us picked up on.

Stabbing=rape is terribly simplistic. Not wrong per se , but doesn't encompass the spectrum of wrongness possible there.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2010 5:01:00 am PST #4579 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Stabbing==rape is sort of what they're working from on the profile, with knife==phallus. So they have anywhere along that continuum to place the violation.

Apparently L&O isn't a certain go for #21. From the TCA Winter Press Tour:

"Law & Order" has been picked up for at least four additional episodes, bringing its season total to 20. Despite the extension, Bromstad confirms the show isn't yet a go for season 21.


le nubian - Jan 11, 2010 5:08:44 am PST #4580 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

NBC doesn't have anything else and needs hours and hours of programming next year.

I think L&O is a go.


Tom Scola - Jan 11, 2010 5:10:22 am PST #4581 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

NBC ordered a record number of pilots for next season. 18 I think.


§ ita § - Jan 11, 2010 5:12:47 am PST #4582 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

As far as I can remember of the numbers, L&O has been a reliable performer, and I haven't heard about money problems with it like SVU and CI. I'd like to think that weighs in their favour--a week full of new drama at 10 is a bit of an intimidating risk.


le nubian - Jan 11, 2010 5:59:58 am PST #4583 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

One of the pilots NBC ordered is a L&O show set in LA.

I cannot believe they want to do yet another L&O. They are copying plots across the programs as it is.