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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2009 6:44:22 am PST #4190 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Because Morgan's points were good, but Hotch didn't stand up for them at all, which is why I think Morgan went OTT.

This was my take - I think Hotch realized he screwed up about ten seconds after he kicked Morgan's butt out the door (figuratively). Morgan was out of line to address it the way he did, but he was still right. And because I am the queen of reading too much into actors' body language, I noticed that when Morgan came back and apologized, it was Not!Haley who replied; Hotch kept his eyes on his paperwork and didn't answer.

Lo Fi and Mayhem were good episodes. I felt for Hotch with his ear pain; I've been there. And I always like the episodes where the bad guy is the girl.

I never liked Cameron and I hope she's gone for good. Her little speech to House as she was leaving about how he was all corrupted and now he'd gone and tainted her husband's poor weak innocent soul, and bestowing him a little cheek kiss - barf. Oh, Sainte Cameron, taking in the poor wounded men and cuddling them to your healing bosom, when you tell him you'll stand by him no matter what, you're supposed to actually do that, not yank the rug from under him when you find he really did do something bad.


-t - Nov 18, 2009 6:45:44 am PST #4191 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I was under the impression that House was taking Vicodin for his pain, yes, but also whenever he was bored and generally way more often than he actually needed it for pain management. Once he got over withdrawal, Advil was for the actual pain and diagnostic puzzles were for the psychological dependence. But I am reading between the lines an awful lot for that interpretation.


-t - Nov 18, 2009 6:49:34 am PST #4192 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, and the gall of Cameron, telling House he's an unredeemable sinner who has corrupted her husband past the point of any hope of forgiveness and then holding out her hand for a goodbye handshake. Being all sanctimonious is who she is, but holding out her hand like that really pissed me off.


erikaj - Nov 18, 2009 6:50:34 am PST #4193 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, that makes, like, narrative-type sense. but it seemed like it makes the kind of medical sense that's not, even outside the realm of "Polite Dissent" But maybe not.


Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2009 7:02:30 am PST #4194 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm using "ketamine rewired his neurons" to la-la-la my way past "Advil works even better than Vicodin OMG!"

Though I have to admit, Vicodin does nothing but give me a headache. Advil actually DOES work better for me than narcotics. I, however, have not had a large chunk of my thigh muscle DIE and be removed, so - yeah. I dunno. Basically just don't want HL giving himself an real limp from faking it too well.


-t - Nov 18, 2009 7:03:54 am PST #4195 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It works in my head, but I am way more familiar with the addiction side of House's drug use than the pain management side - that there was a mix is what made it interesting, though, and that it's ambiguous exactly how much of either makes up the total package.


bennett - Nov 18, 2009 7:43:51 am PST #4196 of 11831

Re: Criminal Minds. CBS is supposed to be thinking about a CM spinoff. I just figured they were setting Morgan up to lead the new crew.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 18, 2009 7:49:09 am PST #4197 of 11831
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'm with Hil on the 'WTF? Advil?' thing. Although I know it works for some people with chronic pain, House was having to use apparently massive doses of Vicodin, and there were other signs that he was in very significant levels of pain. I can't see Advil doing very much at that level. The pandering to the anti-painkiller-addition lobby makes me angry. It's not good disability rights and its not respectful to people in pain. As much as that doesn't have to be the show's priority, medical fiction should surely not be totally irresponsible about this.

(I'm probably very biased and expecting too much from a work of popular fiction here. But it's irritating. Some of us have quite enough increased pain to deal with, what with all the idiot doctors who swallow propaganda and panic unnecessarily about painkiller addiction. Which is actually very rare among people with chronic pain.)

Thirteen makes Cameron look like Sarah Bernhardt.

I disagree. She's the anti-Cameron. Plus, hot. She can stay.


bennett - Nov 18, 2009 7:49:53 am PST #4198 of 11831

Well, having said that, everything I can find indicates they'd use a whole new team for the spinoff, so I may be entirely off base.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2009 7:50:56 am PST #4199 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The last press I saw said that it would be like the CSI spinoffs in that they didn't spin off any of the cast. I hope that's how they go. A Garcia/Morgan rift wouldn't make me a happy puppy. AJ Cook and Thomas Gibson seem a bit defensive.