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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Zenkitty - Nov 18, 2009 7:02:30 am PST #4194 of 11831
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'm using "ketamine rewired his neurons" to la-la-la my way past "Advil works even better than Vicodin OMG!"

Though I have to admit, Vicodin does nothing but give me a headache. Advil actually DOES work better for me than narcotics. I, however, have not had a large chunk of my thigh muscle DIE and be removed, so - yeah. I dunno. Basically just don't want HL giving himself an real limp from faking it too well.


-t - Nov 18, 2009 7:03:54 am PST #4195 of 11831
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It works in my head, but I am way more familiar with the addiction side of House's drug use than the pain management side - that there was a mix is what made it interesting, though, and that it's ambiguous exactly how much of either makes up the total package.


bennett - Nov 18, 2009 7:43:51 am PST #4196 of 11831

Re: Criminal Minds. CBS is supposed to be thinking about a CM spinoff. I just figured they were setting Morgan up to lead the new crew.


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Nov 18, 2009 7:49:09 am PST #4197 of 11831
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

I'm with Hil on the 'WTF? Advil?' thing. Although I know it works for some people with chronic pain, House was having to use apparently massive doses of Vicodin, and there were other signs that he was in very significant levels of pain. I can't see Advil doing very much at that level. The pandering to the anti-painkiller-addition lobby makes me angry. It's not good disability rights and its not respectful to people in pain. As much as that doesn't have to be the show's priority, medical fiction should surely not be totally irresponsible about this.

(I'm probably very biased and expecting too much from a work of popular fiction here. But it's irritating. Some of us have quite enough increased pain to deal with, what with all the idiot doctors who swallow propaganda and panic unnecessarily about painkiller addiction. Which is actually very rare among people with chronic pain.)

Thirteen makes Cameron look like Sarah Bernhardt.

I disagree. She's the anti-Cameron. Plus, hot. She can stay.


bennett - Nov 18, 2009 7:49:53 am PST #4198 of 11831

Well, having said that, everything I can find indicates they'd use a whole new team for the spinoff, so I may be entirely off base.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2009 7:50:56 am PST #4199 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The last press I saw said that it would be like the CSI spinoffs in that they didn't spin off any of the cast. I hope that's how they go. A Garcia/Morgan rift wouldn't make me a happy puppy. AJ Cook and Thomas Gibson seem a bit defensive.


§ ita § - Nov 18, 2009 7:55:37 am PST #4200 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

medical fiction should surely not be totally irresponsible about this

But hasn't House been totally irresponsible about a fair amount of other stuff? I know that disability is an important topic for you, but is House much worse than any other genre show in misrepresenting its actual science? It's not like Dr. House even gives doctors a good name, much less disabled people, or people in chronic pain.

And I speak as someone with a chronic pain problem, but who got turned off House partially because of the idea that it's acceptable for it and genius to make someone a prick. Someone who needs to deal with people as an integral part of their job to boot.

I love Hugh Laurie, but not enough to make it past the unpleasantness.


Connie Neil - Nov 18, 2009 8:06:26 am PST #4201 of 11831
brillig

I don't think Cameron is right about House being unredeemable. He has moments of humanity and realized weakness--he's just never let anyone see them, unless it's Cuddy or Wilson. He wouldn't tell Cameron about that moment when the fetus he was operating on grabbed his finger and he changed the procedure he was about to do.

I wish we could get a look at House before the injury, so we could see how much of a jerk he was then. Didn't that DNA sample he got from his dad prove he wasn't his father's kid after all?


erikaj - Nov 18, 2009 8:13:31 am PST #4202 of 11831
Always Anti-fascist!

Cameron is hardly alone in believing there have to be Good Guys and Bad Guys, but you'd think some of what she's seen and done would take the edges off that. It has for me, and I don't hold actual lives in my hands. ETA: I think drugs were already beginning to be an issue before muscle death, Connie. Because in Three Stories, he was pretty emphatic about "Addicts get sick too," and that wasn't directed toward the farmer or the volleyball player.


Vortex - Nov 18, 2009 8:22:22 am PST #4203 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Re: Criminal Minds. CBS is supposed to be thinking about a CM spinoff. I just figured they were setting Morgan up to lead the new crew.

why do they need a spinoff? Everything is perfectly fine. And doing a CSI like thing doesn't make any sense since they travel all over the place anyway.