Buffy: I was regrouping. Spike: You were about to be regrouped into separate piles.

'Potential'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 3:04:36 am PDT #3747 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like the break of structure in last night's Mentalist. People stepped out of their places. I'm not a big fan of Tunney's range, but I think she played the breakdown well.

And I totally got that it was the psychiatrist from early on. Not how or why, but I figured he can mess with her memory and he can mess with Jane's hypnosis results.


Barb - Oct 09, 2009 3:37:53 am PDT #3748 of 11831
“Not dead yet!”

And I totally got that it was the psychiatrist from early on.

Strangely enough, that didn't ping for me until fairly late. I think it's because I was just so caught up in everyone stepping out of their prescribed roles a bit. It was really interesting and I like what they didn't show us almost more than what they did show us.


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 4:11:21 am PDT #3749 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Speaking of changes of structure I don't think the CSI one worked nearly as well. Too much (boring) time with the perpetrator/flashback to the victim, not enough crimesolving.


sumi - Oct 09, 2009 5:22:41 am PDT #3750 of 11831
Art Crawl!!!

Man, Southland has been canceled - two weeks before it's season 2 debut.

Need to rewatch Mentalist (I fell asleep) and also, watch CM. . . FB is eating my tv watching time. Although, actually on Wednesday it was shopping that was eating my tv watching time.


Kathy A - Oct 09, 2009 7:06:57 am PDT #3751 of 11831
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

What I liked about last night's CSI was their casting of Tim Blake Nelson, who's one of my favorite nerdy-type character actors. But, the overall structure of the show was definitely not very successful.


le nubian - Oct 09, 2009 7:13:15 am PDT #3752 of 11831
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Speaking of changes of structure I don't think the CSI one worked nearly as well. Too much (boring) time with the perpetrator/flashback to the victim, not enough crimesolving.

Yes. IMO, if they had just done it "straight" - it probably would have worked better.

Problem is, I wasn't rooting for the victim. I wanted him dead myself and so therefore there wasn't a lot of tension.


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 8:05:46 am PDT #3753 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

All that extra time with the killer ate what would have been a B plot with another crime. I could see it if we had a particularly clever or flamboyant criminal on our hands, but I think it was meant to be poignant, which it wasn't. I think they were both annoying.


Vortex - Oct 09, 2009 8:30:37 am PDT #3754 of 11831
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I'm not a big fan of Tunney's range, but I think she played the breakdown well.

I thought that it was scene chewing. I mean, I get that it was supposed to be over the top, but I was not impressed.

And I totally got that it was the psychiatrist from early on. Not how or why,

I often figure out who the bad guy is because of the fact that they are using an established actor in a "throwaway" role. Christian Clemson is too good for 5 minutes a week as the psychiatrist. At first, I thought that it was going to be an ongoing thing (like Stephen Fry in "Bones"), but the chemistry/vibe wasn't there.

I was unsatisfied that we never got a motive for why he risked everything for this caper. Yes, he got a million dollars, but is that reason to commit murder, betray your client, and risk your career?


Barb - Oct 09, 2009 9:13:34 am PDT #3755 of 11831
“Not dead yet!”

I was unsatisfied that we never got a motive for why he risked everything for this caper. Yes, he got a million dollars, but is that reason to commit murder, betray your client, and risk your career?

It did seem like the sort of thing that should have had a realllly personal motivation behind it, didn't it?


§ ita § - Oct 09, 2009 9:34:02 am PDT #3756 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

is that reason to commit murder, betray your client, and risk your career?

I don't think he saw it as betraying his client--didn't he take her on as a client so he could frame her? A million dollars used to be a lot of money. I don't think it's enough to get Joe Normal who probably makes decent money (give him a gambling debt, or something) to turn to a complex life of crime.