Anya: Are you stupid or something? Giles: Allow me to answer that question with a firing.

'Sleeper'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Morgana - May 14, 2009 5:27:26 pm PDT #3185 of 11831
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

folks who really wanted a B/B are probably gnashing their teeth tonight.

If there's any overlap with the NCIS audience, there's still the big Tony/Ziva hookup to come. Maybe that will serve as a consolation prize.


SailAweigh - May 14, 2009 5:34:18 pm PDT #3186 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

No, no Tiva! No B/B! Hookups ruin shows. And Tiva would totally blow any hope of Tibbs right out of the water. Even Weatherly said it would be more interesting if Gibbs were bi-curious than to go the route of Tiva.


Connie Neil - May 14, 2009 5:52:26 pm PDT #3187 of 11831
brillig

I'm rewatching my Season 1 NCIS disks, and I can see some of the vibe that would feed the Tibbs thing, but I don't picture Gibbs in a relationship with a co-worker. And it's hard to imagine the power outlines in a relationship with Tony because they are not status equals.


SailAweigh - May 14, 2009 6:08:02 pm PDT #3188 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

but I don't picture Gibbs in a relationship with a co-worker.

Ah, no, the famous Rule Twelve! Never date a co-worker. That doesn't stop the slash-ficcers, though. Thank heavens. Hee. And the relationship is more interesting because the power isn't equal.

A cute Tibbs vid: [link]


Connie Neil - May 14, 2009 6:16:48 pm PDT #3189 of 11831
brillig

Besides, S1 has Tony mentioning the last time he stayed at Gibbs' place and Gibbs saying "You remember what happened," then "the door's unlocked."


§ ita § - May 14, 2009 6:17:53 pm PDT #3190 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

any hope of Tibbs

Was there really any? I completely don't see it. Also, isn't talk of an eventual Tiva spoilery?


Barb - May 14, 2009 6:29:05 pm PDT #3191 of 11831
“Not dead yet!”

Sweets sings rather nicely.

Yeah, it was nice seeing that part of John Francis Daley. He got his start in the touring productions of Tommy as young Tommy and auditioned several times for the part of Gavroche in Les Miz, but was always too short.


SailAweigh - May 14, 2009 6:34:55 pm PDT #3192 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Was there really any?

In show reality? No. Too many redheaded actresses to feed into Gibbs fetish, they can play with that forever. But the show is totally slashtastic, whether you're looking for Tibbs, Tony/Tim, Tim/Gibbs, hell, Fornell/Gibbs. One rerun today ("Leap of Faith") had Tim and Tony waiting to interview a shrink and they got into an argument that made the shrink think they were there for couples therapy.

I don't think talking about Tiva is spoilery. Whether or not they end up in the sack eventually, it's definitely implied that there has been something building between them for a long time. They started laying down that arc with Ziva's overbearing concern that something was wrong with Tony when he first started the undercover op with Jeanne Benoit two seasons ago. Tiva exists, whether it ever gets to a physical relationship or not is the only thing to be seen and there's been massive specualation about that forever.


§ ita § - May 14, 2009 6:39:08 pm PDT #3193 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I dunno... "there's still the big Tony/Ziva hookup to come" sounds like a statement of upcoming developments.


SailAweigh - May 14, 2009 6:42:50 pm PDT #3194 of 11831
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I've been avoiding reading anything that might flat out state it as a given. Anything I've read has been implication only.

And going by the way the Bones writers hedged on their bets, I'm more than happy to stick my head in the sand and go "lalala, I can't hear you."