Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.

'Touched'


Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Ailleann - Mar 18, 2009 4:06:24 am PDT #2618 of 11831
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I miss Leverage. I'm doubting we'll get a dvd set

I don't see why it wouldn't? It did get renewed for a second season, after all...

I'm enjoying Castle too. Clearly the writers are aware that NF gives good banter, and are using it to their full advantage.


Connie Neil - Mar 18, 2009 6:04:51 am PDT #2619 of 11831
brillig

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements? I remember the shows from the 70s, where everything was a standalone, except for recurring characters like Wo Fat on Hawaii 50 (loved Wo Fat) and such.

The ongoing character interaction has raised the level of soap opera, but I like the way previous events inform later ones.


Tom Scola - Mar 18, 2009 6:07:37 am PDT #2620 of 11831
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements?

The Fugitive had some of that. An overall arc that actually got resolved!

I think it really picked up with Hill Street Blues.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2009 6:12:20 am PDT #2621 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I think Hill St Blues revolutionised the form.

I read Beverly to mean she wouldn't get DVDs. They are being made.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2009 6:13:22 am PDT #2622 of 11831
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

serial:

Did anyone watch NCIS last night? I caught a rare current episode and the end confused me. Did Tyler having had eye surgery mean that Vance was lying about his?


Connie Neil - Mar 18, 2009 6:15:45 am PDT #2623 of 11831
brillig

Did Tyler having had eye surgery mean that Vance was lying about his?

I don't know, I thought it was confirmation that the story about the detached retina making him leave the Marines was true. But I don't buy the "there's no record of him ever being a Marine". Still, Vance's annoyance at his wife telling Gibbs everything Vance didn't want Gibbs to know was funny.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2009 7:08:52 am PDT #2624 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements? I remember the shows from the 70s, where everything was a standalone, except for recurring characters like Wo Fat on Hawaii 50 (loved Wo Fat) and such.

Didn't Magnum PI have a few arcing elements? Or did they just do occasional multi-parters?


Toddson - Mar 18, 2009 7:10:58 am PDT #2625 of 11831
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Wasn't Wiseguy the first to do it?


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2009 7:12:36 am PDT #2626 of 11831
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think HSB was up an running prior to Wiseguy.


Kathy A - Mar 18, 2009 7:15:08 am PDT #2627 of 11831
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

HSB was definitely on-air before Wiseguy. I know I watched it (HSB) in my college dorm around 1985, and I think Wiseguy dates from the late '80s/early '90s.