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Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.

This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]


Connie Neil - Mar 18, 2009 6:04:51 am PDT #2619 of 11840
brillig

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements? I remember the shows from the 70s, where everything was a standalone, except for recurring characters like Wo Fat on Hawaii 50 (loved Wo Fat) and such.

The ongoing character interaction has raised the level of soap opera, but I like the way previous events inform later ones.


Tom Scola - Mar 18, 2009 6:07:37 am PDT #2620 of 11840
hwæt

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements?

The Fugitive had some of that. An overall arc that actually got resolved!

I think it really picked up with Hill Street Blues.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2009 6:12:20 am PDT #2621 of 11840
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yeah, I think Hill St Blues revolutionised the form.

I read Beverly to mean she wouldn't get DVDs. They are being made.


§ ita § - Mar 18, 2009 6:13:22 am PDT #2622 of 11840
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

serial:

Did anyone watch NCIS last night? I caught a rare current episode and the end confused me. Did Tyler having had eye surgery mean that Vance was lying about his?


Connie Neil - Mar 18, 2009 6:15:45 am PDT #2623 of 11840
brillig

Did Tyler having had eye surgery mean that Vance was lying about his?

I don't know, I thought it was confirmation that the story about the detached retina making him leave the Marines was true. But I don't buy the "there's no record of him ever being a Marine". Still, Vance's annoyance at his wife telling Gibbs everything Vance didn't want Gibbs to know was funny.


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2009 7:08:52 am PDT #2624 of 11840
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When did detective shows start using story arcs and continuing character elements? I remember the shows from the 70s, where everything was a standalone, except for recurring characters like Wo Fat on Hawaii 50 (loved Wo Fat) and such.

Didn't Magnum PI have a few arcing elements? Or did they just do occasional multi-parters?


Toddson - Mar 18, 2009 7:10:58 am PDT #2625 of 11840
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Wasn't Wiseguy the first to do it?


Frankenbuddha - Mar 18, 2009 7:12:36 am PDT #2626 of 11840
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think HSB was up an running prior to Wiseguy.


Kathy A - Mar 18, 2009 7:15:08 am PDT #2627 of 11840
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

HSB was definitely on-air before Wiseguy. I know I watched it (HSB) in my college dorm around 1985, and I think Wiseguy dates from the late '80s/early '90s.


Beverly - Mar 18, 2009 7:40:39 am PDT #2628 of 11840
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I read Beverly to mean she wouldn't get DVDs. They are being made.

Woo! No, if they're made I will definitely have them, if I have to sell a kidney.

It was just that as far as I knew, TNT didn't dvd its original shows.