Procedurals 1: Anything You Say Can and Will Be Used Against You.
This thread is for procedural TV, shows where the primary idea is to figure out the case. [NAFDA]
My wanting no Romance is not because I don't see chemistry. It it because between eight and ten freaking years have passed without Jane making a move. My feeling is that Lisbon should have moved on, regardless of chemistry.
My theory of this ship is that it hasn't really been ten years of unrequited/undeclared love for Lisbon. If you have seen the 100th episode which is a flashback to Jane's entrance to the CBI, there isn't much feeling there from Lisbon to Jane other than compassion. He's a stray she takes in, to some extent. She does not find him attractive, the way we see in early episodes like "Red Hair and Silver Tape". While it is possible that Jane for his part may have glommed on to her in a much deeper fashion, he's also fresh out of the hospital and wounded beyond the telling of it. I doubt either of them fall in love at first sight. It is only after years together that they forge anything remotely resembling a partnership. And it is over those years that they certainly become work spouses. The fact that neither of them have any significant others waiting at home conspires to create a deeper level of intimacy than would ordinarily form between work spouses. Then add to that a growing awareness of each other's physical desirability, these factors cause them to slowly fall for each other. Jane hasn't been dangling Lisbon on a string for a decade. It's possible he had feelings he was about to confess during "Strawberries and Cream" when they broke in on the guy who had strapped the bomb vest to Lisbon (and really, would he have stuck to her the way he did if he didn't realize he didn't want to live without her?)
As for Lisbon, I don't know when she might have actually fallen for Jane beyond a raw crush. Her old mentor Bosco certainly thought he saw something, but I don't think Lisbon had realized it for herself at that point. I believe that there were years when she suppressed her feelings, deliberately treating him as a troublesome brother in order to keep him in a safe category in her heart as it slowly creeps into her awareness that her affection for him is deeper and more dangerous than she can control. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't really admit it to herself until he absconded to Vegas.
I'm hoping it doesn't disappoint the way Coven did.
gnnnnng. Still annoyed about that.
Come on! The hats! When will we ever see such splendid hatdom again.
At my house? On a daily basis? Hats and witchcraft, I've got your supply.
The Hannibal finale, DAMN.
"Surprise, our surrogate daughter isn't actually dead! We could have been a happy murder family on the run, but NO, you had to ruin everything."
Worst breakup ever, and I don't actually ship Will/Hannibal.
Also, BEDELIA WTF?
t's not like it has to be a thing burning at your pants with an expiry date. I've gotten together with a guy after about that long (though apparently we had chemistry because people (including him) thought we were dating). It was fabulous.
Had you spent hours a day with him five days or more a week over that time period?
Windsparrow, you have a point.
Had you spent hours a day with him five days or more a week over that time period?
I don't see how that's relevant to if she could love him over a period of years without consummation. Is there an expiry period that's invoked by exposure? She could have spent that whole time learning more about him and falling deeper in love. You seem to have my points.
(We spent three years in each other's pockets, FWIW, but I think that's completely irrelevant--there are so many scenarios which don't violate either character that it's the weirdest objection to a ship I don't see I've ever seen.)
Hanibal finale: SO. Much. Blood. What the fuck just happened?
Current odds of actual final death for everybody who's bleeding to death at Chez Hannibal:
Will: 5% because plot immunity, lead character, etc.
Alana: 35% because they're running out of female characters, for fuck's sake
Jack: 75% because Laurence has a lead role on another show
Abigail: 95% because, Jesus, it's gotta take, sooner or later. That kid's gonna end up with a goddam callous on her neck if she survives this one.
So, yeah, Bedelia coming in out of left field there. That was a surprise. But in the end, really, Will, you probably shoulda eloped with your murder husband when he offered.
Hannibal! The only thing I predicted right about the finale was that it would end with Hannibal on the run. I didn't see any of the rest coming.
I knew he had to end up on the run, but during the show itself I got so utterly lost in what was happening that I completely forgot and was flabbergasted when he (as Fuller put it in a post-finale interview) dropped the mic and walked away.
That was brutal and harrowing, and oh God Abigail. I never for a moment thought she was still alive, felt certain all the fandom hoping and wishing for her survival was pure delusion -- and then there she was, and then there she wasn't, in the most traumatic and wrenching way possible. Everything, everyone that mattered to Will at all (except the dogs), left in blood and wreckage, because Hannibal smelled a trace of Freddie Lounds and added two and two and got betrayal. Betrayal was intolerable, and so Will's whole world (except the dogs) is obliterated.
Hannibal smelled a trace of Freddie Lounds and added two and two and got betrayal
The scene where he catches the scent is incredible. So much going on in his eyes, and yet his expression barely changes.
Also found Hannibal's hand hovering near Will's cheek almost unbearably tender. There's a whole twisted Frankenstein's monster theme to unravel there, I think.
Oh, and Bedelia! I couldn't decide if the look on her face in the plan was obsessed love, or fascinated horror.
Watched the Hannibal finale.
Rocks fall, everyone dies?