You're like my fairy godmother, and Santa Claus, and Q all wrapped up into one! Q from Bond, not Star Trek.

Buffy ,'Help'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tiggy - Sep 12, 2007 6:01:07 am PDT #9857 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

this morning i am being heartily amused by cow-orkers who just can't handle change. our system got upgraded over night to a shinier, sleeker version and no one but me seems to like it. they're whining about the text being too small to read.

strangely, today feels like a friday and i feel okay.


tiggy - Sep 12, 2007 6:01:28 am PDT #9858 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

cereal to say:

Happy Birthday, P-C!!! *smooooooooch*


Jars - Sep 12, 2007 6:01:57 am PDT #9859 of 10001

You know how some days you're fairly sure there's something wrong with your brain?

I just went to the bathroom, washed my hands, then used the toilet.


Sue - Sep 12, 2007 6:03:35 am PDT #9860 of 10001
hip deep in pie

Happy Birthday Polter Cow!

My mom was in town last weekend and brought me a lasagna. Eating a whole lasagna by yourself means many, many, many meals of lasagna.


tommyrot - Sep 12, 2007 6:03:43 am PDT #9861 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

P-C generally doesn't hang out in Natter.

::off to Bitches::


tommyrot - Sep 12, 2007 6:20:55 am PDT #9862 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is this offensive? Hate speech? Should it be censored (by a TV network)?

LOS ANGELES - Before Kathy Griffin won a creative arts Emmy last weekend for her reality show, "My Life on the D-List," she joked that an award would move her to the C-list.

She was right: "C" as in censored. The TV academy said her raucous acceptance speech will be edited when the event, which was taped, is shown Saturday on the E! channel. The main prime-time Emmy Awards air the next night on Fox.

"Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast on Saturday night," the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences said in a statement Monday.

In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus."

She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about Christ and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"

The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."

According to the TV academy and E!, when the four hour-plus ceremony is edited into a two-hour program, Griffin's remarks will be shown in "an abbreviated version" in which some language may be bleeped.

The "off-color remark about Christ" was "Suck it, Jesus!" Which I guess is what all the hoopla and hullabaloo is about. I'm not sure - would "Suck it, Yahweh!" be offensive? Hate speech? When it was clearly a joke?


§ ita § - Sep 12, 2007 6:25:43 am PDT #9863 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's a joke that many will find offensive (and she not just knew it, but bargained on it). But I don't think that makes it hate speech.

Man, I wish the Percocet would kick in so I can fall asleep.


tommyrot - Sep 12, 2007 6:27:19 am PDT #9864 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Egg McMuffin:

To me, hate speech would be along the lines of, "All those followers of Jesus are smelly and lazy and they lie and cheat and steal a lot." Saying, "Jesus can bite me" might be blasphemous and perhaps (from a Christian's point of view) inviting the wrath of God on the person who said it, but that doesn't seem like hate speech to me.


brenda m - Sep 12, 2007 6:28:01 am PDT #9865 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Donohue is a notorious crank, and in no position to be lecturing anyone on hate speech, for the record.


bon bon - Sep 12, 2007 6:28:46 am PDT #9866 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."

Donohue is hateful and the source of many manufactured "religious defamation" controversies. He hardly represents a mainstream view.