Spike: You pissed in the Big Man's Chair? That's fantastic! Gunn: Spike, can you please turn off that warm fuzzy? Spike: What, the Lorne thing? Worn off. I just think that's bloody fabulous.

'Life of the Party'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Aug 07, 2007 9:05:22 am PDT #3055 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

So as I read it when he says he's a nobody in Silicon Valley, it doesn't mean he doesn't know that that's a lot of money anywhere else. It's just not a lot where he lives.

But the thing that gets me is that he can't be that hardworking and intelligent and that dumb. Maybe not a lot in his division at work, in his neighborhood. But even in Silicon Valley there are neighborhoods where the grade school teachers, the janitors, the folks who pump your gas and bag your groceries and their families all live. They may all be crammed into East Palo Alto or some other grim city, but they're still in Silicon Valley and they're at least surviving on astronomically less than what he makes.

I mean, what does he think, it's all done by house elves?


megan walker - Aug 07, 2007 9:06:19 am PDT #3056 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

But there's a millionaire sitting ten feet away from me right now and he's a nobody. Because there are a half dozen richer people on this office floor. It's not a secret.

Do you think he's a nobody? Or do you think the richer people do?


msbelle - Aug 07, 2007 9:07:51 am PDT #3057 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

but what does he mean by a nobody? It's a weird subjective term. In terms of being known? - money doesn't = that.

In terms of what counts to him? In terms of value to the community/world?


bon bon - Aug 07, 2007 9:08:52 am PDT #3058 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Do you see him as dissatisfied, bon? Are you similarly dissatisfied? What I get from him on that front isn't anything I've ever gotten from you.

First question, I guess I thought he was half-joking, but one's reaction to his quote depends on whether or not he was serious. No, I'm not dissatisfied now, but if I owned a house or had kids, maybe I would be. And I will probably radically shift my earnings when Bob gets a faculty job. I may quit for awhile, I don't know.


Connie Neil - Aug 07, 2007 9:09:31 am PDT #3059 of 10001
brillig

ION, Fred Phelps Is Coming

Somebody is going to shoot that man, someday. And his moronic spawn will then call him a martyr. Hm, a downside.

t legal disclaimer: Of course, Connie does not advocate the cold-blooded murder of any sentient being. Any proof that Fred Phelps is/is not sentient can be sent to the profile address. Just saying


Liese S. - Aug 07, 2007 9:10:04 am PDT #3060 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

If they do, we can protest the funeral, right?


tommyrot - Aug 07, 2007 9:11:05 am PDT #3061 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

If they do, we can protest the funeral, right?
Holding signs saying, "What took you so long?"


§ ita § - Aug 07, 2007 9:11:09 am PDT #3062 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know what would make me feel like a nobody, I guess. And that's where my eyeroll comes in. Money, property, love, children...lacking any of those wouldn't make me feel like a nobody. Only lacking self respect would. I just don't get the word that way. Maybe he defines it differently from the way I do.

I guess that's the nub of why I don't see you and him as the same, but if you do hinge self respect on money then it's my misread.


bon bon - Aug 07, 2007 9:13:15 am PDT #3063 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Do you think he's a nobody? Or do you think the richer people do?

Of course it depends on the definition of nobody, but I think in Mahattan he's not really something special. You'd probably have to go back to the article to see what the definition of nobody is-- is he richer than his friends? Does he get better service at restaurants? Can he retire early and send his kids to college? Does he get called every day from his alma mater? Special service from his bank/broker?


Allyson - Aug 07, 2007 9:14:14 am PDT #3064 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

One of my interviewers this morning quoted my book at me: "The internet is just a reflection of the first world society that created it."

Or something like that.

And then he asked, "what does that mean?"

And I said, "well, to have the internet, you have to have electricity, a computer, basic shelter, lots of leisure time..you know, these aren't always readily available in the third world. So the net is just showing you what's going on all around you behind closed doors."

All the first world talk reminded me.