These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 53: We could just avoid making tortured puns  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Jul 25, 2007 2:14:39 pm PDT #191 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I know. At first I thought something had happened, but then I realized he'd just totally spent himself. Athleticism at this level is just amazing to me.

Which makes the doping stuff just all that much odder. I can certainly understand the pressure that would cause it, but man, how can you not think you're going to get caught at this level?


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2007 2:18:31 pm PDT #192 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Boat in a bag.

Text your bathroom.

eta:

how can you not think you're going to get caught at this level?

If it's as prevalent as rumoured, lots of people aren't getting caught. They're just cheating right.


Dana - Jul 25, 2007 2:21:19 pm PDT #193 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

If it's as prevalent as rumoured, lots of people aren't getting caught. They're just cheating right.

But the more successful you are, the more you're tested. Which would imply that the guys who aren't getting caught are probably the workhorses of the team. But stage winners are tested. Yellow jersey, tested. Plus random tests.


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2007 2:26:51 pm PDT #194 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know much about bike racing and how they dope or test, but from what I've been told about athletics the tests don't catch the dopers. Ben Johnson was a moron.


Dana - Jul 25, 2007 2:30:44 pm PDT #195 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I just caught a couple minutes of Lance Armstrong on Hardball. Man, Chris Matthews is a schmuck.

amych will know more about the testing than I do.

t /Tour de France likes carrots


Kat - Jul 25, 2007 2:32:24 pm PDT #196 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

After reading the article, I'm still wigged by the idea that people are using blood transfusions (!!) to recover! Where it says that Vinokourov had two different types of blood in system do they mean blood types? And how is that possible unless one of the types is O?


Jesse - Jul 25, 2007 2:36:33 pm PDT #197 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In other news, did anyone see the CNN/YouTube debate, or coverage thereof? A semi-worker was totally all over all of it! Jon Stewart told her she could "do better" than her partner! Bananas!! (Semi-coworker because she works for the NYC local branch and I work for national, but we're in the same space.)


§ ita § - Jul 25, 2007 2:38:20 pm PDT #198 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

do they mean blood types? And how is that possible unless one of the types is O?

I don't think it's type, no.

From velonews:

Homologous transfusion is now the focal point of the current doping controversy. All individuals have a specific and consistent genetically programmed blood type. Each blood cell in the body has markers or antigens that hang off the cells. These specific antigens determine an individual's blood type. The major blood types are A, B, and O. The positive or negative value added to the ABO type refers to another antigen on the blood cell called Rh(d). If you have both the A antigen and the Rh(d) antigen, your blood type is A positive. In addition to these major antigens, there are numerous other "lesser" antigens that make up each person's blood composition. It is possible to test not only for one's major blood type (A+ or O-, for instance) but also for the lesser antigens on one's blood cell. By this test, we can define even more specifically the makeup of an individual's blood.

Home Improvement star bilked by older woman. Who's younger than I am...

Cate Blanchett fans should watch her new Elizabeth movie.

Profane kids are not cute. Nope. Well, to a non-parent, maybe sometimes.


brenda m - Jul 25, 2007 2:41:37 pm PDT #199 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

In other news, did anyone see the CNN/YouTube debate, or coverage thereof?

I thought it was really quite good. The format worked out better than I expected.

A semi-worker was totally all over all of it! Jon Stewart told her she could "do better" than her partner!

Huh? I'm confused.


Kat - Jul 25, 2007 2:42:32 pm PDT #200 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Why is getting a blood transfusion cheating? I mean, it's not doping, per se. What about players, like football folks, who hang out in oxygen tents or use hypebaric chambers.