She has an agenda, and it's a fucking DayRunner covered in the skin of NUNS.
::loves Erin forever and ever, a-fucking-men::
That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.
Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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Amy - Oct 10, 2008 5:40:24 pm PDT #8644 of 10002
Because books.
Theresa - Oct 11, 2008 8:42:09 am PDT #8645 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
I'm going with Dean's still in Hell (or being played by Hell) and this is Hell's version of the temptation of Christ. Maybe "stop it" means stop trying to save Sam's soul or we'll put you back in the pit.
This would make me cry.
In the second episode, when all the zombie ghosts showed up because the seal of the witnesses had been broken, who's to say Dean isn't one of them?
This would too. When Dean was first out of the grave and in the filling station, I thought he was still in Hell. I've changed my mind as we work through a few episodes, but maybe that's just being lulled into a comfort zone. I need to make a list of things I believe: 1)Dean is out of Hell, 2) Dean is not a zombie, 3) Castiel is a fierce fighting Angel, and should never be confused with the word cuddly, 4) Castiel is a bad ass, and may do questionable things, but for the side of good (id est he's not Lucifer), 5) The reason John was smiling so much when he got out of Hell was because he was John the civilian again, believing in happy endings.
eta: It will be funny if this little show, which is probably in the top ten list of offensive shows for Parents Television Council, actually gets people reading the words of the Bible.
Anne W. - Oct 11, 2008 8:54:05 am PDT #8646 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
The reason John was smiling so much when he got out of Hell was because he was John the civilian again, believing in happy endings.
Okay, that made me get a little sniffly.
More than a little.
Beverly - Oct 11, 2008 9:00:18 am PDT #8647 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Just something in my eye...
Castiel is a fierce fighting angel...who is going to be oddly touched (heh) by Dean dimunizing his name to a nickname, and will not blow Dean's hair and eyebrows off in wrath at the presumption.
Theresa - Oct 11, 2008 9:02:33 am PDT #8648 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Ha!
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 11, 2008 11:09:05 am PDT #8649 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
There's a greater power at work than Castiel that would prevent that: producers' fear of fan reaction to a bald bullfrog look for Jensen Ackles.
Strix - Oct 11, 2008 11:56:21 am PDT #8650 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I've decided that I don't really care is Castiel is bad or good. I just want to see him shirtless in leather pants, kicking ass with a fiery sword.
It can be cousin to Micheal's fiery Eden-guarding sword, or a fiery bile-of-Hellfire sword. I don't care. I just want to see it.
(And if you think by "fiery sword" I mean PORN, you are SO right.)
Ailleann - Oct 11, 2008 11:57:38 am PDT #8651 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Wow, Erin, I....
::goes to bunk::
Amy - Oct 11, 2008 12:01:17 pm PDT #8652 of 10002
Because books.
(And if you think by "fiery sword" I mean PORN, you are SO right.)
::as usual, loves Erin like burning::
I can't see Dean being in hell. Not anymore. I don't think even Kripke would sustain that kind of misdirect over four episodes. And I don't think Castiel has an evil agenda. Again, I think Kripke might be willing to paint him in shades of gray(ish), but I don't believe he's going to pull a Dallas-style surprise on us and have Castiel turn out to be Lucifer, or a demon, or whatever.
Not that Kripke doesn't have an imagintion, but I don't see it happening that way.
Also would like some shirtless Castiel, please. Any time. I'll wait.
Strix - Oct 11, 2008 12:12:10 pm PDT #8653 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I don't think Dean is still in hell. I do entertain the notion that his get-out-of-jail-free card is attached to some hidden strings.
It seems, in Judeo-Christian theology, that God and Lucifer work in a very rules-based system. If the Devil gets a soul, that soul is HIS and God does not willy-nilly decide to yank a soul that the devil won out of hell. IIRC, the only way souls already in hell were ever able to get out was when Jesus Messiahed-up and got all the good pagans outta there when he was riding the Resurrection coma-wave. And that took three days (and I always thought it was kinda a massive woobie retcon on the part of the NT writers, who couldn't stand the thought of their philosopher-heroes burning.)
So....why Dean W.? I mean, good guy, fights against evil. BUT in the larger picture, he really is NOT extraordinarily good. His appeal is based on being ordinarily, conflicted good.
So Kripke's either got (a) something really good to justify this (b) an ass-pull or (c) this is not your beautiful string-free cake.