Do we have a hard birthday for John?

We have his gravestone in "What is and blah blah". It's an alternate universe, but, considering it's constructed out of Dean's own head, I don't think he'd be making up alternate birth years for his own father. (It's just the year, IIRC.)

Really, they couldn't have invested in a bottle of that gray frosting-paint they use in theatre? It washes out, so Denny Duquette would not even have had to look old. And then they could have John be a much more likely age in all his flashbacks to 1983 (to say nothing of to 1989). Because, I mean, really. If John is 29 in 1983 then I am Mickey Mouse.

Was JDM appearing on SPN and GA at the same time?

signed, has no clue about GA AT ALL

Yes. This is why John Winchester always looked so tired. (Also, the woman who plays his fiancee on the one show and the man who plays his son on the other show are the same age.)

Also, the woman who plays his fiancee on the one show and the man who plays his son on the other show are the same age.)

Oh, like that would never happen.

the man who plays his son on the other show

JA or JP?

The full beard went a long way to making him look older, shame he couldn't seem to hang on to that the whole time.

It's a sign that I'm a sucker for the false truths presented to me by TV that I'm now weirded out by the fact that I have no concept of JDM's true age, and that if I grokked how old he really is I'd be freaked out.

JA or JP?

probably JA because i think he and Katie Heigl are both right about my age.

I have no concept of JDM's true age

he's 40 and delicious.

According to IMDB, JDM is 41. Which makes him perfect dating material for moi.

According to IMDB, JDM is 41.

I was about to say this-- he's less than a year younger than I am, and I'm almost 42.

Yeah, I always wonder if it freaked the actors out that JDM was playing their father when he's nowhere near old enough. JA is going to be thirty this year (I think?) so that's a little ... bizarre.

Not that I am complaining about the casting, mind. JDM is one of my favorite things about the show. ::rustles up six-foot-long list::

Get your hands on a copy of Jam, which stars JDM at his own age. He's a dad with young children so he gets to be appropriately fatherly.

It's an indie, also starring Gina Torres, Marianne Jean-Baptiste, William Forsythe, Alex Rocco, Tess Harper, others. It's a *tiny* movie, as these things go, but it does give the actors a showcase. Plus, for those who care, there's JDM ink visible.

I own it, but I'd say it's certainly worth the price of rental.