the fuck?! Castiel, you are killing me, man!
so basically, we're going to have a brother showdown. if not about what side the other's on then definitely about the fact that Sammy's been keeping Mary's past from Dean.
Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.
'The Train Job'
Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business
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tiggy - Oct 02, 2008 4:58:07 pm PDT #8347 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Beverly - Oct 02, 2008 4:59:14 pm PDT #8348 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
...and LJ explodes.
I may explode before next week.
Also? I want some action to center on Sam. I want him to have some agency, rather than all the focus being on Dean reacting to stuff about Sam. JA was the stronger actor, but I think JP can carry the emotional weight of a whole episode, and I'm ready to see that.
I just have to explain for all the edits. I was typing with my long-distance glasses on, so I could see the tv, all the way over there. But I couldn't see the screen in my lap. Switching glasses back and forth was too hard, and watching blurry tv with my computer glasses--nuh and uh. So, many typos. Sorry.
Ailleann - Oct 02, 2008 5:00:59 pm PDT #8349 of 10002
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I had forgotten that Sam knew about the blood thing! But he doesn't know about the former hunter thing.
I'm a wee tiny eetsy bit cranked about Dean once again being responsible for stopping Sam from going darkside, but I will forgive if they actually resolve it soon, instead of dragging it along. We've done this in S2, people. Move it along!
(Maybe I am too cranky? But that's my first thought!)
Beverly - Oct 02, 2008 5:03:11 pm PDT #8350 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
No, I agree with you. It seems like Sam's destiny is to go darkside. And it's Dean's destiny to stop him. And yes, we've seen it before, but it wasn't actually resolved.
Which it may not be unless and until one of them dies.
tiggy - Oct 02, 2008 5:03:11 pm PDT #8351 of 10002
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Ruby also told him that YED had gone around killing Mary's former friends.
Amy - Oct 02, 2008 5:09:29 pm PDT #8352 of 10002
Because books.
this episode is totally a fandom wet dream.
This, exactly. I think I'm dead of flail.
Pinto! And DEAN driving it! Mitch Pileggi! Giving crazy good evil! Mary is a kickass hunter!!!!!! Dean is named after his grandMOTHER!
::flails times a billionty::
JA delivered some really pitch-perfect acting in this episode. The wobbly voice and the full eyes when asking Mary not to get out of bed that night almost did me in.
I can see the point about having Dean responsible from keeping Sam from going darkside AGAIN, but if you take what Castiel said about destiny as truth, then they're going to keep going down that road, as Bev said, until one of them succeeds, or one of them dies, or both.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 02, 2008 5:34:27 pm PDT #8353 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
This episode also may explain some of the reason why Castiel was sent to rescue Dean apart from his relationship to Sam. If those events already played out in the past as we saw tonight, then someone had to remove Dean from Hell and take him back in time to make everything turn out as it did.
SailAweigh - Oct 02, 2008 5:51:34 pm PDT #8354 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Seems to me that if Dean couldn't change it, then his presence there had no effect on the occurance, either. It would have happened one way or another. He was, said and done, merely an observer.
Theresa - Oct 02, 2008 6:45:38 pm PDT #8355 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Watched the debate, and started Supernatural. Haven't read any comments yet so marking this and between #8312.
First thing I notice is Jaybird's diner. ugh. We could have used Jayhawk and KU would not have sued. Next Bert's Barber. Don't remember that on Mass St. , but I was a kid in this time frame, so sure I will give that to Kripke.
Maybe Bert's was next to the music store where the hippie wearing a flower in her hair wrote a song for me. She was high and I was one of "all the wonderful hippie children of the world." Okay, maybe having a Bert's Barber is Capra-esque and better story telling than the way I actually remember it.
The Lawrence Herald? It's the Lawrence Journal-World. Fuck, the fourth wall is going to totally ruin this episode for me, isn't it? I need to pretend this is science or medicine on television and just go all hand wavy. He didn't say they were in Lawrence...he said they were in Blawrence. ::waves hands:: It works!
I have thought that Kripke was missing out on something by not making something up about "Beware of the Phog" in Phog Allen Field House, but at this point, I'm willing for him to stay out of Lawrence. ::puts away tinfoil hat and rewinds to watch Castiel again:: He really can read the phone book to me if he is going to do line deliveries like that.
Theresa - Oct 02, 2008 7:01:07 pm PDT #8356 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"
Okay, I lied. First thing I thought was "oh John, oh Mary" during the THEN previouslies. Then I thought Dean needs to kick Sammy's ass and soon. Then I went all irrational and started on my Lawrence tirade. I blame the debate for getting me riled.
I'm better now. Hugs Boys, Hugs John, Hugs Castiel. ::gropes Castiel::