Joyce: And what did you do tonight? Dawn: Irritated Giles. I'm beginning to get why Buffy likes it so much.

'Get It Done'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


sumi - Sep 29, 2008 5:38:20 am PDT #8289 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

No, not this time.


Toddson - Sep 29, 2008 5:38:52 am PDT #8290 of 10002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

One of the things I find interesting is that after all these seasons of only encountering bad things, suddenly a non-human force for good shows up.


sumi - Sep 29, 2008 5:43:15 am PDT #8291 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

It is interesting. And something that (Sera Gamble at least) has been thiking about for some time. We rewatched "Faith" and "Houses of the Holy" as part of our little Supernatural weekend. And it's interesting how willing Sam is to believe and how resistant Dean is.


Ailleann - Sep 29, 2008 6:00:36 am PDT #8292 of 10002
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And it's interesting how willing Sam is to believe and how resistant Dean is.

I think it's because Dean lost his faith when Mary died, but was still able to instill a concept of faith in Sam.

(BOYS.)


Morgana - Sep 29, 2008 2:12:10 pm PDT #8293 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

I think it's because Dean lost his faith when Mary died, but was still able to instill a concept of faith in Sam.

Since Dean really has no faith at all, and is pretty much outright contemptuous of people of faith, why would you think he would bother to "instill a concept of faith in Sam"?


Ailleann - Sep 29, 2008 2:30:29 pm PDT #8294 of 10002
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I think he even did it despite himself. Sam has faith because he trusts in his family. I don't know that Dean instilled a "religious" faith, but having the capability of faith in anything is a big step toward having faith that aligns with a particular religion.


Theresa - Sep 29, 2008 2:41:50 pm PDT #8295 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

What Ailleann said. Dean sheltered Sam from facing the realities of their world as much as possible. We saw that with the Christmas episode. Even if Dean "knew" that good things don't happen, he wasn't going to let Sammy know that. I think that is probably one of the contributing factors to why Sam even would think college was possible or consider anything like angels or God. Dean let Sam have hope.


Beverly - Sep 30, 2008 5:21:55 am PDT #8296 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I've always assumed that Dean remembered normal, and tried to give Sam what he could of what he remembered. Because Sam had authentic "normal", if only as much as Dean had been able to give him, Sam was better able to adapt to normal when he took the chance. Dean's sense of normal was ruined and broken, and given the chance at it, he wouldn't be able to trust it.

Just my armchair psychology.

I need to do the iTunes thing. I don't think I'm going to be able to fit the whole season on the TeFaux, and the local CWHD is still hinky. At least one scene per episode, usually two or three, pixellate or freeze.

Also, new tagline.


aurelia - Sep 30, 2008 9:07:54 am PDT #8297 of 10002
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I don't think Sam was ever saddled with DUTY the way Dean was.

I wonder when John learned that Sam and the other kids like him were "special." I don't think he knew the specifics of what that meant until the show timeline (or perhaps that was the catalyst for the show).

I think Sam's "special" status must have affected the way John treated the boys.


sumi - Oct 01, 2008 4:23:43 am PDT #8298 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Two new clips from tomorrow night's show. I thought that they were not particularly spoilery, i.e., they didn't give you more information than the promo did.