Captain Crunch:

I know they're connected, too -- both of them are committed to the life and the hunt, and Sam especially I think will feel a lot of responsibility that in their quest to finally kill the YED they ended loosing more demons on the world.

It's just like Buffy was for me -- saving the world was good and fine, but how Buffy felt about it, what happened to *her* was the draw for me. Which is probably obvious, but worth stating.

When I watched the pilot, I never expected the realtionship between these boys to be so incredibly rich and complicated, or for either of them to be so gorgeously broken (especially Dean. Oh, DEAN).

I know they're connected, too -- both of them are committed to the life and the hunt, and Sam especially I think will feel a lot of responsibility that in their quest to finally kill the YED they ended loosing more demons on the world.

It'll also be interesting to see how Dean reacts at first. He's always carried "kill the YED" as the end-all goal. (Though probably one could argue that that started to shift as we got further into S2.) To be a hunter, but not to be hunting the YED, feels like it should be a different thing to me.

Kripke interview - I hope that they do the un-Santa.

Not overly spoilery but if you have NO IDEA what shape the arc may take don't read it. (It just give it a name.)

It'd be like a crossover with Buffy's demonic Santa!

I think Kripke is saying "mythology" when he means "season arc" though... I always thought of a show's mythology as the accumulating background info of setting, how things work, who's allied with who, etc.

I agree, Matt. Know your terms, Kripke!

Well, they talked about the YED arc as the mytharc and I think that's what he means and the demons escaping from hell; battle of good vs. evil stems from the first one so he thinks of that in the same way.

(Not reading the interview. For now. I may weaken later. Soon) For my personal preference, I enjoy the angst, too. I'd like to see more Sam whumpage, actually, since I think Pada-somebody has gained the chops to portray that. I'm not ruling out Dean whumpage, but he got whumped so frequently and so hard last season that I actually hope they'll lighten up on him a little.

When it's nothing but constant whumpage, I grow calloused and immured. I'd like there to be about half the season of merry merry whacking of demon ass, and, um, tapping of mortal ass too as Dean gives in to his hedonistic side in a frantic and frenetic attempt at distracting his attention from his ticking clock. I'd like there to be brotherly bonding and bickerage, and I'd like to see Sam trying to balance keeping things light and humorous with Dean and slowly sliding into despair as one theory after another proves useless. I want Sam to carry the weight. Mid-season, they can ramp the Dean whumpage. But I want a nice long break from it, so that when the Ackles brings it, it'll be all the sharper and more painful.

When it's nothing but constant whumpage, I grow calloused and immured.

This is why I spent the latter half of the second season mocking the Single Perfect Tear.

And, really, Dean being the focus of attention and rescue attempt is comedy gold, people. Squirmy and awkward FTW! Maybe, eventually, heartwearmingly squirmy, but before it can get to heartwarming, squirm must needs go through miles and miles of "Oh you did not just say that."

tapping of mortal ass too as Dean gives in to his hedonistic side in a frantic and frenetic attempt at distracting his attention from his ticking clock.

I, um, read this sentence wrong the first time.

I want Sam to carry the weight. Mid-season, they can ramp the Dean whumpage. But I want a nice long break from it, so that when the Ackles brings it, it'll be all the sharper and more painful.

Oh, I agree. I want them to set it up well, and I want the payoff to be worth it. I just don't want them to forget the issues underneath what they're facing to get forgotten when they're whumping demon ass.

Amyliz - bwhah!