I've seen honest faces before. They usually come attached to liars.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Morgana - Sep 18, 2008 6:18:24 pm PDT #8041 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Honestly, more than the character issue of Sammy's been getting laid, I was staring at his hair. Yes, I'm shallow. I was really, really hoping that they'd set a stylist loose on him with a pair of scissors and trim that mop into something more flattering. Such a gorgeous man, and such a mess of a hairdo.

Other than that, I'm guessing we'll have several weeks where we get dribs and drabs dealt out telling us how Sam's personality and habits have changed now that he's been on his own. Maybe picking up women now and again is part of that change. (It would be nice if he could at least remember their name until after they walked out the door.)

Edit: Not to be totally Sam-centric, I'm sure they'll be teasing us with how Dean has changed too.


Ailleann - Sep 18, 2008 6:20:56 pm PDT #8042 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

If that was Ruby when the girl walked out, I would chalk all of that up to just her fucking around with Sam. Like, they had a cover name for her, and she said a different one when he used it.


Amy - Sep 18, 2008 6:24:24 pm PDT #8043 of 10002
Because books.

I'm betting acting like it's a one-night stand is a plan to make Dean less suspicious -- if it seems like a long-term girl Sam's fallen for, then Dean's going to ask questions.

Also, I'm assuming (now) that this is not Ruby jumping into random girls' bodies, but this is the body she chose. She seemed to like her other *meatsuit* just fine, and I don't see her risking jumping from body to body just for the hell of it. Not least because it would just be easier for both her and Sam to use the same one permanently.

I'm not sure I'm bothered by the idea of them sleeping together, either. Maybe because it makes more sense to me, character-wise, than Sam sleeping around randomly.


Morgana - Sep 18, 2008 6:32:20 pm PDT #8044 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Weren't we left with the impression at the end of last season that Lillith had killed Ruby?


Juliebird - Sep 18, 2008 6:34:51 pm PDT #8045 of 10002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Weren't we left with the impression at the end of last season that Lillith had killed Ruby?

Bad memory, but didn't Lilith say something like "Ruby's been sent far away", as to, say, hell? And maybe she crawled her way back out?


SailAweigh - Sep 18, 2008 6:36:03 pm PDT #8046 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Lillith had killed Ruby?

I thought it was more that she kicked her out of the meatsuit and sent her back to hell. Looks like she came back and found a new one.


Amy - Sep 18, 2008 6:37:05 pm PDT #8047 of 10002
Because books.

Demons lie. ::nods::

Also, I'd be willing to bet Lilith wouldn't want to admit it if Ruby escaped before Lilith could off her. And it's good strategy to make the enemy (Sam) feel helpless and alone.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 18, 2008 6:43:50 pm PDT #8048 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So, Dean just plugged the dude who "volunteered" to be the supposed angels vessel, and is now dead? Sucks for that guy, guess the angel will just have to keep the body. Darn.

If it can drag someone who signed his soul away out of Hell and resurrect a body that's been shredded and rotting for months, I don't think a knife wound will be that much of a challenge.

I do wonder if the fact that Dean sold his soul for a basically noble reason played into the decision to intervene and spring him, or if being Sam's brother is the motivating factor.


Theresa - Sep 18, 2008 7:19:13 pm PDT #8049 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

If it can drag someone who signed his soul away out of Hell and resurrect a body that's been shredded and rotting for months, I don't think a knife wound will be that much of a challenge.

This. Anything Bobby and Dean did was nothing compared to the state of what Dean's body should have been, and that came back just fine. Spectacular really.

Demons lie. ::nods::

Why does Sam not remember this? Why do I feel like slapping him myself? Whap "What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?" She doesn't want to come between him and his brother?!? I've got some swampland for Sam to buy. I am less disappointed in Sam now that I rewatched and caught that he is planning on telling Dean, he just is trying to figure out how.

I suspect neither Dean nor Sam should trust their respective guides. As far as good and evil it will be shades of gray if Kripke is smart.


Anne W. - Sep 18, 2008 7:27:52 pm PDT #8050 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

"What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?"

I'm thinking that during those four months--especially the early ones when he was trying to get Dean back--Sam would have been very, very easily led astray, in desperate need of comfort, etc. (I am sure there will be fic and lots of it). After all, we did see that for his own part, Bobby was drinking a lot more. Sam just chose a different way to be self-destructive.

I wonder if Dean will remember/be able to say anything about his meeting with the angel.

Interesting, that the first time around, I thought the demons in the diner couldn't attack because of Sam's presence. But then the female one was able to jump him just fine when he showed up without Dean.