Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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SailAweigh - Sep 18, 2008 6:36:03 pm PDT #8046 of 10002
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Lillith had killed Ruby?

I thought it was more that she kicked her out of the meatsuit and sent her back to hell. Looks like she came back and found a new one.


Amy - Sep 18, 2008 6:37:05 pm PDT #8047 of 10002
Because books.

Demons lie. ::nods::

Also, I'd be willing to bet Lilith wouldn't want to admit it if Ruby escaped before Lilith could off her. And it's good strategy to make the enemy (Sam) feel helpless and alone.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 18, 2008 6:43:50 pm PDT #8048 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So, Dean just plugged the dude who "volunteered" to be the supposed angels vessel, and is now dead? Sucks for that guy, guess the angel will just have to keep the body. Darn.

If it can drag someone who signed his soul away out of Hell and resurrect a body that's been shredded and rotting for months, I don't think a knife wound will be that much of a challenge.

I do wonder if the fact that Dean sold his soul for a basically noble reason played into the decision to intervene and spring him, or if being Sam's brother is the motivating factor.


Theresa - Sep 18, 2008 7:19:13 pm PDT #8049 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

If it can drag someone who signed his soul away out of Hell and resurrect a body that's been shredded and rotting for months, I don't think a knife wound will be that much of a challenge.

This. Anything Bobby and Dean did was nothing compared to the state of what Dean's body should have been, and that came back just fine. Spectacular really.

Demons lie. ::nods::

Why does Sam not remember this? Why do I feel like slapping him myself? Whap "What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?" She doesn't want to come between him and his brother?!? I've got some swampland for Sam to buy. I am less disappointed in Sam now that I rewatched and caught that he is planning on telling Dean, he just is trying to figure out how.

I suspect neither Dean nor Sam should trust their respective guides. As far as good and evil it will be shades of gray if Kripke is smart.


Anne W. - Sep 18, 2008 7:27:52 pm PDT #8050 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

"What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?"

I'm thinking that during those four months--especially the early ones when he was trying to get Dean back--Sam would have been very, very easily led astray, in desperate need of comfort, etc. (I am sure there will be fic and lots of it). After all, we did see that for his own part, Bobby was drinking a lot more. Sam just chose a different way to be self-destructive.

I wonder if Dean will remember/be able to say anything about his meeting with the angel.

Interesting, that the first time around, I thought the demons in the diner couldn't attack because of Sam's presence. But then the female one was able to jump him just fine when he showed up without Dean.


Theresa - Sep 18, 2008 7:38:20 pm PDT #8051 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

After all, we did see that for his own part, Bobby was drinking a lot more. Sam just chose a different way to be self-destructive.

I was touched that it never occured to Dean that he was the reason for all this damage. He asks about the drinking and looks incredulous when Bobby points out that they had to bury Dean. Like Dean knew they loved him, but never conceived of them actually grieving him. Which tied in nicely to the angel telling Dean that good things happen. "Not in my experience." Nice touch with JA's voice.

"You don't believe you are worth saving?" He never has. Nice job with the lip quiver before regaining his composure facing the demon.

eta: I have to say that I am pleased with the character moment for Bobby. As tough and as gruff as he acted with the boys, he clearly retreated from life after Dean died. And then Dean admonishing him that he should have looked out for Sammy. Dean, clearly Bobby was trying to focus on keeping himself alive one minute at a time let alone being responsible for anyone else. I'm a little surprised they went that way with the character of Bobby but I'm pleased they cast him with such a human reaction.


Morgana - Sep 18, 2008 7:44:06 pm PDT #8052 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Nice job with the lip quiver

As long as we can stay away from the single emo tear!


Atropa - Sep 18, 2008 8:14:49 pm PDT #8053 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Pete called it being an angel. I'm just glad it's not a snuggly-wuggly lovey angel.

Oh, and predictably, my favorite part was Bobby trying throwing holy water in Dean's face.


chrismg - Sep 18, 2008 9:00:40 pm PDT #8054 of 10002
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Well, one episode in and we've got one(1) woman with her eyes burned out after suggesting group sex, and one(1) "woman" slapped, humiliated, Force-choked, and killed.

Sigh.

On a lighter note, I dug out my Dictionary of Angels and Castiel is mentioned. He is "a Thursday angel mentioned in occult lore" which doesn't say much but seems very appropriate for this show.


P.M. Marc - Sep 18, 2008 9:25:58 pm PDT #8055 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My assumption with the slap was that he was verifying in a reasonably non-destructive way that the scared demons were merely bluffing, and wouldn't touch him.

It was so much lower-key in terms of violence than S3, that it was more a minor irritation for me than anything else. The bar, it was lowered.