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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Theresa - Sep 18, 2008 7:19:13 pm PDT #8049 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

If it can drag someone who signed his soul away out of Hell and resurrect a body that's been shredded and rotting for months, I don't think a knife wound will be that much of a challenge.

This. Anything Bobby and Dean did was nothing compared to the state of what Dean's body should have been, and that came back just fine. Spectacular really.

Demons lie. ::nods::

Why does Sam not remember this? Why do I feel like slapping him myself? Whap "What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?" She doesn't want to come between him and his brother?!? I've got some swampland for Sam to buy. I am less disappointed in Sam now that I rewatched and caught that he is planning on telling Dean, he just is trying to figure out how.

I suspect neither Dean nor Sam should trust their respective guides. As far as good and evil it will be shades of gray if Kripke is smart.


Anne W. - Sep 18, 2008 7:27:52 pm PDT #8050 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

"What are you thinking sleeping with the skanky demon?"

I'm thinking that during those four months--especially the early ones when he was trying to get Dean back--Sam would have been very, very easily led astray, in desperate need of comfort, etc. (I am sure there will be fic and lots of it). After all, we did see that for his own part, Bobby was drinking a lot more. Sam just chose a different way to be self-destructive.

I wonder if Dean will remember/be able to say anything about his meeting with the angel.

Interesting, that the first time around, I thought the demons in the diner couldn't attack because of Sam's presence. But then the female one was able to jump him just fine when he showed up without Dean.


Theresa - Sep 18, 2008 7:38:20 pm PDT #8051 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

After all, we did see that for his own part, Bobby was drinking a lot more. Sam just chose a different way to be self-destructive.

I was touched that it never occured to Dean that he was the reason for all this damage. He asks about the drinking and looks incredulous when Bobby points out that they had to bury Dean. Like Dean knew they loved him, but never conceived of them actually grieving him. Which tied in nicely to the angel telling Dean that good things happen. "Not in my experience." Nice touch with JA's voice.

"You don't believe you are worth saving?" He never has. Nice job with the lip quiver before regaining his composure facing the demon.

eta: I have to say that I am pleased with the character moment for Bobby. As tough and as gruff as he acted with the boys, he clearly retreated from life after Dean died. And then Dean admonishing him that he should have looked out for Sammy. Dean, clearly Bobby was trying to focus on keeping himself alive one minute at a time let alone being responsible for anyone else. I'm a little surprised they went that way with the character of Bobby but I'm pleased they cast him with such a human reaction.


Morgana - Sep 18, 2008 7:44:06 pm PDT #8052 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Nice job with the lip quiver

As long as we can stay away from the single emo tear!


Atropa - Sep 18, 2008 8:14:49 pm PDT #8053 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Pete called it being an angel. I'm just glad it's not a snuggly-wuggly lovey angel.

Oh, and predictably, my favorite part was Bobby trying throwing holy water in Dean's face.


chrismg - Sep 18, 2008 9:00:40 pm PDT #8054 of 10002
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

Well, one episode in and we've got one(1) woman with her eyes burned out after suggesting group sex, and one(1) "woman" slapped, humiliated, Force-choked, and killed.

Sigh.

On a lighter note, I dug out my Dictionary of Angels and Castiel is mentioned. He is "a Thursday angel mentioned in occult lore" which doesn't say much but seems very appropriate for this show.


P.M. Marc - Sep 18, 2008 9:25:58 pm PDT #8055 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

My assumption with the slap was that he was verifying in a reasonably non-destructive way that the scared demons were merely bluffing, and wouldn't touch him.

It was so much lower-key in terms of violence than S3, that it was more a minor irritation for me than anything else. The bar, it was lowered.


Cass - Sep 18, 2008 9:37:28 pm PDT #8056 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Castiel being an Angel of Thursday is amusing. I mean, this is still a bitch of a timeslot. They could use some angelic intervention.

Dean slapping the demon in the female meatsuit didn't twig me. Actually neither did blinding the psychic after Castiel warned her not to keep trying to look at him. Neither struck me as extraordinarily sexualized violence.

All that said, overall this ep made me happy and made me want to watch my show again. And I made it unspoiled!


Cass - Sep 18, 2008 9:39:00 pm PDT #8057 of 10002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

My assumption with the slap was that he was verifying in a reasonably non-destructive way that the scared demons were merely bluffing, and wouldn't touch him.

Or, what Plei said better than I did.


Morgana - Sep 18, 2008 11:17:44 pm PDT #8058 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Really, it only makes sense to keep count of every female victim of non-sexualized violence (as Cass put it) if we're also going to keep a running count of every male victim as well. Of course sexualized violence (such as Dean using the demon-killing knife to repeatedly stab the witch/demon last season) is something else entirely. But I don't remember any "bitch," "whore," or "skank" references tonight, so that makes me happy. (I just checked, and this episode was written by Kripke. Somehow I had missed that at the beginning.)