Thanks!

can I be so bothersome as to ask for a direct link for this Ellen fic? Because there's a whole lotta fic over there at summergen to browse through and the tagging doesn't seem to be in use.

Found this translation of the Hebrew from the season 4 promo over at TWOP (where it was posted from lj:

"Armageddon, Hill of Megiddo, crushing, the sons of the angels advance on the circle of the earth and the end of the ages."

Here, Juliebird: [link]

Hee! Consuela, I just finished reading your fic, and I enjoyed it muchly.

Edit: Heh. Consuela beat me to it!

I haven't read the story yet, but I can't wait! Being reminded of Ellen made me swing by samanthaferris.net. I was reading through one of her Q & A's and saw this about season two (which is not spoilery because its only her view)

Q: what would my reaction to Jo being John's? and is Bobby a good replacement for John?

A: well I think that Jo IS John's.....but i don't know. Ellen knows. Deep down she knows but she is the only one. Bobby is a good man for those boys but he will never be John. Never.

Huh. I mean, I thought about Jo being John's, and there were theories, but guess I didn't really think of it as much of a possibility. Wouldn't that be weird if it was a probability? So, she thinks Jo is John's. That still leaves me with the reaction of "Huh."

edited again to add prediction: I'm not going to last the weekend without looking at spoilers. The anticipation of the first episode is building too much. I will break by Monday at the latest.

Anne, that is one of the best Ellen stories I have ever read. I have such over the top love for her and I found that just incredible.

Hmm. I like the idea of Ellen having had something with John, however messed up and tormented -- but I really don't like the idea of Jo being John's daughter. Especially given that Jo was originally introduced as a possible love-interest for Dean. That's a bit too incesty, in a fandom that's already got plenty of it.

Yeah, I kind of thought at the time that's what Ellen was going to tell Jo to keep them apart. But that isn't the direction they went.

But I can see it.

Thank you, Austin!

I like the idea of Ellen having had something with John, however messed up and tormented -- but I really don't like the idea of Jo being John's daughter.

This, and it's not just the potential incesty vibes that would come from it. Another issue I have is believing that John would sleep with another man's (especially a friend's) wife so close to his own wife's death (Jo's not that much younger than Sam, right?).

I can, however, easily imagine any number of circumstances when they might hook up later, most likely for something they'd both dismiss right after as a "just this once/this was a mistake" kind of thing. Repeated a few times, perhaps, but hardly a grand romance and hardly healthy.