great casting for younger Bela.

That actress was really good.

I agree, tiggy. Jettisoning Bela's story would have left what would have seemed to be a pointless loose end. Now we know why she became a dealer/thief, and now we know why she was interested in the boys.

Plus, thanks to her we know Lilith holds the contract on all sold souls, which is helpful.

I did have a lot of sympathy for Bela. Incest may be overused as a trope, but in real life it doesn't make it any less painful, and as a motive for a teen girl killing her parents, it certainly works for me.

Yay to the X-Files guy, and the guy who played Benton, who's been in EVERYTHING as a villain.

And ... scary that Sam is willing to even think about going that far. Desperate Sammy is sort of heartbreaking, but more than anything else frightening.

interesting that Sam, having seen and almost experienced and heard what the cost of that immortality was, was the one who was willing to attempt it, and that Dean, who didn't have any of that first-hand experience, dismissed it out of hand. Also interesting that he went back to his "black&white/human¬human" mindset for this instance.

I'm just so glad that Bela had a point to her existence in the show.

I'm just so glad that Bela had a point to her existence in the show.

Yes, and I'm equally glad that her existence is done. I know I've stated it before, so I won't rant again, but I don't think her character was written well enough to add to the character mix. She was dead wood.

I'm equally glad that her existence is done

forgot to qualify my statement with This.

And I'll hop on the wtf of Dean being immortal having anything to do with his normal or paranormal lifespan having absolutely nothing to do with when the hellhounds come for him.

That was really gross.

I did have a lot of sympathy for Bela. Incest may be overused as a trope, but in real life it doesn't make it any less painful, and as a motive for a teen girl killing her parents, it certainly works for me.

Yes, but I would have been happier if the show hadn't pulled out that trope. Lots, lots happier, because I'm tired of it being used as the motivation for just about every vaguely bad-ass female character in the horror genre.

What Jilli Said.

Plus, Gwen is still infinitely cooler than Bela was.

Also, why the hell did they bury the doctor alive? Cut off his head, put it in a separate box, then lock him in the fridge and bury it. Sheesh, guys. Immortality isn't helpful if your head's been detached.

(Also, Sam, messing around with alchemy is not a clever idea. You boys are so-so at doing research for regular occult thingamies. Trying to take up the Great Work? Oh please.)

t / Jilli's usual occult rantycakes

I was thinking the same thing, Jilli, about the head.