I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

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Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - Nov 14, 2007 5:49:31 pm PST #4366 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm not sure I'd go with a Wikipedia definition of the term, which is vague to the point of uselessness at best. Of course, that's kind of the nature of the term with its constant dilution these days, so I'm not sure which definition I'd go with. Anyhow, that one leaves out the part where everyone adores them. *g*

Bobby, it has been observed, is Wiser Than All, produces mysterious charms out of his ass, and so on and so forth (Suela, where was the original post on that point? it details it better than I can right now). And, as mentioned, he's named for one of the producers.

If he were younger, female, and named Sera Gamble instead, everyone would be screaming Sue.


Morgana - Nov 14, 2007 6:19:05 pm PST #4367 of 10002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

Anyhow, that one leaves out the part where everyone adores them. *g*

Actually, there was a mention of the blatant adoration, but I didn't copy the entire lengthy discussion, including Angsty Sue, Anti Sue, Canon Sue, Gary Sue, and on and on. My gods, there's an entire dissection of the topic out there.

Anyway, I didn't mean to raise bad feelings about the whole issue... my whole initial point was merely that I don't like Bela, and that in last week's episode I felt we were dangerously close to being spoon-fed an overabundence of "get out of jail free" explanations for her behaviours thus far. Abused childhood, dangerous superpowers that fried her 15-year old boyfriend, whatever, I suspected a facile explanation was about to get shoved at us. I was pleased that it didn't happen, but I wouldn't put it past them.


Theresa - Nov 15, 2007 2:19:59 am PST #4368 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

hearing about Sterling and JP in the makeup trailer.

Oh so many smile worthy moments. Any chance Gordon will be shirtless?

Dang those Vancouver layers.


Beverly - Nov 15, 2007 6:46:52 am PST #4369 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I nearly swallowed my tongue at the forearm porn. I don't know if I could survive shirtless.


Nutty - Nov 15, 2007 6:52:26 am PST #4370 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Bela is only a Mary Sue if those horrible people what don't like her are suddenly convinced of her eternal goodness and smartastica in one fell swoop. (Or they die.)

I would say that Bobby is a piece of flabotinum, rather than a Mary Sue. Until he gets his own story line (and then dies tragically) or acquires the skills of talking to unicorns.

Canonical Mary Sues do occur (although usually not till the show is really in decline), and I would not be surprised if somewhere out there a producer has managed to cast his own girlfriend as the Mary Sue. Which is the point at which I say, "Why halo thar Thomas Hardy!" and change the channel.


Wolfram - Nov 15, 2007 7:23:04 am PST #4371 of 10002
Visilurking

Was Giles a Mary Sue/flabotinum?


P.M. Marc - Nov 15, 2007 7:24:20 am PST #4372 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Canonical Mary Sues do occur (although usually not till the show is really in decline)

Reyes or Doggett?


Amy - Nov 15, 2007 7:32:43 am PST #4373 of 10002
Because books.

Reyes or Doggett?

I'd say Reyes before Doggett.

Happy birthday, sumi! On a show day, too. Yay.


P.M. Marc - Nov 15, 2007 7:37:24 am PST #4374 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Whale song!

Man, poor Annabeth Gish. What a stinker of a role to get stuck with.

Doggett... I am mildly irrational on the subject of Doggett. I swear, he's the only reason I watched the penultimate season.


sumi - Nov 15, 2007 7:38:39 am PST #4375 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I'm very happy to get a Sera Gamble episode on my birthday!!