hmmm...i actually think i'll wait then. not that i haven't inferred what i think the spoiler is, but i'd rather not know up front.

There have been directors cuts that didn't.

Two Directors' cuts up for tonight's episode.

You mean tomorrow's episode, yes?

Yes. Over anticipating.

I actually double checked the calendar even though I've been at work all day and knew it was Wednesday.

I was not in love with this ep either, Consuela, for some of the same reasons.

Me three or four. Actually I haven't loved the last couple, but I am anticipating, tomorrow's episode. Maybe not as much as sumi, but almost. ;)

Consuela --

Plus yet another Meaningful Conversation in the car? Really?

I agree that it's repetitious, but considering that they spend most of their lives in the Metallicar, it doesn't surprise me that most of their most meaningful interludes would take place there. There, or in roadside diners.

OTOH, I liked the reveal that Bela's got an interesting backstory.

I'm with Cass -- I just hope it's interesting. I'm still expecting them to shove some storyline down our throats that is purely designed to Mary Sue her and provide her with instant "poor, poor little girl" credentials.

And that Sam was unreservedly distrustful and nasty to her the entire time. Sam's really not in a higher moral position at the moment, and it shows.

She SHOT him. Why should he trust her? Why shouldn't he be nasty? Not to mention that she's stolen from them, what, three times now? (The rabbit's foot -- and when she stole that, she knew full well it meant Sam would die without it, and she just didn't give a damn, the lottery tickets, and the Hand of Glory.)

All my meaningful conversations with my kids took place in the car. Or most of them--okay, a lot of them.

A. Captive audience. B. Driver can't look directly at passenger for long enough to overpower by glare. C. Familiar territory, and often neutral ground.

Convos in the car don't bother me, really. I don't want them to become the S3 trademark bookend scenes, but so far it doesn't stretch credulity for me that they're talking in the car rather than in the motel room or across a diner table.

I'm trying to keep a lid on my squee about tomorrow's ep. Particularly after hearing about Sterling and JP in the makeup trailer.

I would love for them to have conversations in the car during the episode. . . and for some of the tension we're seeing in those "conversations" to show up in the hunt.

You know, I hate being pissy here, but because it's a pet peeve, can we PLEASE quit with the calling canon female characters Mary Sues?

I mean, as someone wiser than me pointed out, if you really want a Mary Sue who fits the definition, his name is Bobby Singer, and we all love him and his sparkling violet eyes.

I think I might be misunderstanding the definition of Mary Sue then, and if so, I apologize for stirring the ire of the great and powerful Plei. Just to check, I looked up “Mary Sue” on Wikpedia, and here are some of the excerpts:

Many -- perhaps most -- characters described as "Mary Sues" are not literal self-insertions, though they are frequently said to be "proxies" or stand-ins of some sort for the author. The negative connotation of the term comes from this very "wish-fulfillment" implication: the "Mary Sue" is regarded as being a poorly-developed character, one who is too perfect, too beautiful/handsome, too young, and/or too lacking in three-dimensionality to be accepted as realistic or interesting. Such proxy characters exist in the story only to satisfy the author's ego, the interpretation being that the author wishes to see himself or herself as the "special" character in question.

The term is therefore also associated with over-the-top character features, such as exotic hair and eye colors, mystical or superhuman powers greater than those of the other characters, exotic pets, possessions or origins, or an unusually tragic past. These features are commonplace in examples of wish-fulfillment "Mary Sues"', though even a character who lacks them may be labled a "Sue" by some critics.

I'm not certain how Bobby Singer fits that definition. Of course, you could be working from a separate definition. Are you naming him a "Mary Sue" just because of his name being Bobby Singer, and one of the producers/directors being Robert Singer?