To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

Anya ,'Sleeper'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

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sumi - Aug 15, 2007 11:44:00 am PDT #1278 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I think that JA said something similar about holy water (at Comicon, maybe.)


DebetEsse - Aug 15, 2007 11:47:27 am PDT #1279 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

If they are the ones to finally use the holy water pistols they will win. Just win.


sumi - Aug 15, 2007 11:49:10 am PDT #1280 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Super-soakers!!!

I've been waiting for that.

Xander would be bitter.


Ailleann - Aug 15, 2007 11:53:02 am PDT #1281 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Holy water pistols would be SO Dean. Someone call Kripke, please.


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 12:20:36 pm PDT #1282 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Two-doors had a split front seat back, so you could tip it to crawl into the back seat. Four-doors...dunno. Plei?

I'd have to check. Yes, that's one of the reasons I own the manual, but it's in the other room. (I'm WAH right now. Hahaha.)


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:22:10 pm PDT #1283 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

OMG timed out and it ate my post.

I squick with the sexualized violence...

I feel like there is still confusion/conflation going on with sexual violence, violent sex, and sexualized violence. I'm going to define them as I understand them with fannish examples. Austin, I grabbed your quote merely as representative. (I am highly wary of going here, but I will.)

Sexual violence - Attempted, threatened, or actual sexual assault. Sam in BUaBS. Seeing Red. Nonconsensual.

Violent sex - Does not have to be sexual violence. Can be consensual, even if it's deeply fucked up. See: Buffy and Spike sexing the house down. (I would personally also put Angel and Darla in this category, since they are canonical physical equals and I would argue that she gets off on Angel's violence since she sees it as a sign of him turning to the dark side.)

Sexualized violence - Does not have to involve sexual acts. At all. It involves largely how the violence is presented to the viewer. "Torture porn" is the extreme end of it. Less extreme is the near-drowning of Amy Acker's character in Dead in the Water. Frequently involves long, loving shots of dripping blood, injured scantily clad women or, notably, their parts.

These things can and do overlap, but they are not the same thing.

I hope that makes sense.


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 12:24:55 pm PDT #1284 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It makes sense to me!

But I'm also coming from beating my head against comic books again for a couple of years, and having to explain these things over and over, myself.


Ailleann - Aug 15, 2007 12:27:35 pm PDT #1285 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

That's a perfect set of definitions, smonster.

So, she asks again, the vid is pointing out sexualized violence? If so, I'ma stop making the "who gets killed/menaced by what" list and make a "what clips I would take out because I don't think they fit" list.

(Probably just for my own edification, because I'm the odd one out here and I'm ok with that.)


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:34:27 pm PDT #1286 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

But I'm also coming from beating my head against comic books again for a couple of years, and having to explain these things over and over, myself.

Oh, comics. Talk about pleasure mixed with pain. I'm sort of glad I'm not deep into the DC. I'ma stick to Runaways and Buffy s8.


Atropa - Aug 15, 2007 12:35:47 pm PDT #1287 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

It completely makes sense to me. But I'm also coming from decades in the horror genre.