Wesley: Perhaps the whole point of this experiment is hair. Gunn: I vote he's not in charge.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Supernatural 1: Saving People, Hunting Things - the Family Business  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 12:24:55 pm PDT #1284 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It makes sense to me!

But I'm also coming from beating my head against comic books again for a couple of years, and having to explain these things over and over, myself.


Ailleann - Aug 15, 2007 12:27:35 pm PDT #1285 of 10002
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

That's a perfect set of definitions, smonster.

So, she asks again, the vid is pointing out sexualized violence? If so, I'ma stop making the "who gets killed/menaced by what" list and make a "what clips I would take out because I don't think they fit" list.

(Probably just for my own edification, because I'm the odd one out here and I'm ok with that.)


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:34:27 pm PDT #1286 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

But I'm also coming from beating my head against comic books again for a couple of years, and having to explain these things over and over, myself.

Oh, comics. Talk about pleasure mixed with pain. I'm sort of glad I'm not deep into the DC. I'ma stick to Runaways and Buffy s8.


Atropa - Aug 15, 2007 12:35:47 pm PDT #1287 of 10002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

It completely makes sense to me. But I'm also coming from decades in the horror genre.


juliana - Aug 15, 2007 12:40:13 pm PDT #1288 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

smonster, your list makes total sense to me.

I still need to watch that freakin' vid.


Theresa - Aug 15, 2007 12:45:11 pm PDT #1289 of 10002
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

Austin, I grabbed your quote merely as representative.

I think you were right to use it. I was interchanging the terms incorrectly. I would agree with your definitions. I do think that that particular Darla/Angel scene was maybe violent sex in theory, but was sexualized violence in application. Showing a beautiful, young, human-looking woman being thrown through glass and enjoying it as foreplay (despite knowing she is a vampire and could handle it), strikes me as the latter. She was filmed in beautiful young woman mode, not vampire demon mode. I love the show, that scene just always bothered me.

And talking about the impala's bench seats takes me to a completely different place. One of good and right and true sex. It is the land of happy.


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:46:46 pm PDT #1290 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Well, I certainly didn't create the vid, and I've only watched it twice. So this is IMHO, cutting and pasting from upthread:

Here's a breakdown of tropes I see in the vid:

  • Women as victims (frequency)

  • The sexualization of violence through staging and filming (women scantily clad, dying in bedrooms, etc.)

  • Evil women, with or without a sexual component to their evilness (Woman in White, Crossroads demon, Meg)

I'd have to watch it again to see if I think sexual violence should be added to that list.


smonster - Aug 15, 2007 12:55:36 pm PDT #1291 of 10002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Glad the definitions seem clear to people who aren't in my head.

that particular Darla/Angel scene was maybe violent sex in theory, but was sexualized violence in application.

I think this is a good example of overlapping areas - sexualized violence and violent sex. I would still say not sexual violence, but even that could be debated. Excellent point that Darla was filmed in woman mode, not vampire mode. Now I want to rewatch that scene and pay attention to the camera angles and such.

Wow. I haven't posted this prolifically on Buffistas in YEARS. Wow.

eta - and I've killed the thread. FTW!

etaa - juliana, looking forward to hearing your reaction on the vid. i think you'll like it, for values of like that include "deeply disturbed."


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 1:08:24 pm PDT #1292 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

You haven't killed the thread! I just decided Working At Home included popping in a DVD and watching Route 666.

RUN, MR ROBINSON!!! Run!!!

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, the sweet smell of cheese.


P.M. Marc - Aug 15, 2007 1:11:04 pm PDT #1293 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Oh, cranky Sam.

You know, she's wooden, but she's very pretty.