Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


Sean K - Aug 14, 2007 3:23:17 pm PDT #892 of 6786
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm fascinated and amused by the poll results. The comments in particular.


Jessica - Aug 14, 2007 4:32:42 pm PDT #893 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I agree -- really fascinating stuff in the comments at the end.

The one that pinged me in particular was the accusation that we are a "closed community." I think it was meant as a jab, but for me, that closeness is one of the reasons this is my primary internet home.

Also interesting that Boxed Set came in third on the most-essential threads question. I wouldn't have guessed that before.


Connie Neil - Aug 14, 2007 4:34:28 pm PDT #894 of 6786
brillig

I think it was meant as a jab, but for me, that closeness is one of the reasons this is my primary internet home.

Jabs can be true.


Beverly - Aug 14, 2007 4:34:42 pm PDT #895 of 6786
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Wow. That's an amazing mass of data.

I think one of the things I'm getting from the comments is that not as many folks as I thought care that b.org isn't just another board. That's food for thought. I may be reading it wrong, weighting it wrong, always possible. But that's the feeling I get off the comments, in general.

In any case, you guys did an AWESOME job putting it together. You should all get, like, free bagels for a year, or something!


DavidS - Aug 14, 2007 4:35:24 pm PDT #896 of 6786
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Here are the poll results:

I am so glad we did that.

Big majority of folks just fine with the way things are.

Some impulse to put a check on thread creation, but without changing the voting method drastically. Raising the quorum threshold seems to be the most popular (and frankly easiest and most sensible [I think] solution).

People come to talk TV. More TV threads would enhance the experience. But still a lot of people come for the socializing.

One of the comments struck me - noting that threads which create their own mini culture like Boxed Set or Minearverse or what Spoilers used are more divisive/diluting than single show threads.

I think that is sort of true, but I don't see that as a negative. That makes me turn my head around a little since I really like the Box Set culture (even though I don't participate there) and really liked the little Spoilers subgroup that used to be (that's where I got all my hang time with Le Nubian!).

Ultimately, the most diluting thing that ever happend on B.org was Bitches becoming it's own place. Except that didn't dilute the experience - it just created a different subset of interaction.


Liese S. - Aug 14, 2007 4:38:01 pm PDT #897 of 6786
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Here's a quick and dirty, probably flawed and typo-ridden table that assigns a weighted total to each thread. Simply, Number 1 votes times 3, Number 2 votes times 2, Number 3 votes times 1.

ThreadNo. 1No. 2No. 3Total VotesWeighted Votes Natter 57 34 15 106 254 Bitches 48 31 13 92 219 Boxed Set 20 17 17 54 111 Minearverse 10 22 11 43 85 Beep Me 11 11 17 39 72 Movies 6 14 11 31 57 Supernatural 7 9 9 25 48 Heroes 4 5 7 16 29 Literary 2 6 10 18 28 Firefly 2 7 4 13 24 Music 5 2 5 12 24 Tech 3 2 8 13 21 Non-Fiction TV 3 2 7 12 20 F2F 1 4 8 13 19 Great Write Way 2 3 7 12 19 Buffy and Angel 1 4 4 9 15 FanFiction 1 3 4 8 13 Other Media 1 2 5 8 12 Press 2 1 3 6 11 Un-American 2 1 3 6 11 Book Club 1 2 1 4 8 Bureaucracy 0 3 1 4 7 Spoilers 0 1 5 6 7 Sang Sacre 1 1 0 2 5 Fic 0 2 0 2 4 Lost 1 0 1 2 4 Premium Cable 0 0 3 3 3 Spoilage Lite 0 1 1 2 3 Cable Drama 0 0 2 2 2

Edited to sort by weighted total, and possibly to introduce all sorts of additional typos.


Jesse - Aug 14, 2007 4:38:07 pm PDT #898 of 6786
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Keep in mind that not even a quarter of respondents made any comment at all in that final box.


Beverly - Aug 14, 2007 4:42:41 pm PDT #899 of 6786
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Someone in one of the comments asked why some people are attracted to Natter and others to Bitches, or some version of that, I think. My extremely simplistic answer, especially since Bitches no longer fics and has tamed from bondage tape to daycare (NOT a bad thing, just an evolution of its inhabitants) and is no longer the prime porny thread is that Natter is more thinky, Bitches is more feely.

I don't have time to do both, daily--I haven't had time to do either, this past week--and as I feel the need to keep up with folks in whichever thread, I feel compelled to choose. Sometimes it's Natter, sometimes it's Bitches.


Jessica - Aug 14, 2007 4:43:42 pm PDT #900 of 6786
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jabs can be true.

Yes, that's what I meant. We are a somewhat closed community, but I don't consider that a bad thing, even if the commenter meant it that way.

To use a real-world parallel, when I'm out having lunch with friends, the table we're sitting at is a closed community. We're out in public and anyone sitting nearby can listen in if they want, but we're still only talking to each other. Random passersby (or dedicated eavesdroppers) can try inserting themselves into the conversation, but we're under no obligation to offer them a chair. I like that about meatspace, and I like it here.


bon bon - Aug 14, 2007 4:45:48 pm PDT #901 of 6786
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Keep in mind that not even a quarter of respondents made any comment at all in that final box.

I was going to say.