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Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: Jon B, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle, shrift, Dana, Laura

Stompy Emerita: ita, DXMachina


bon bon - Aug 01, 2007 3:11:05 pm PDT #646 of 6786
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

That if 40 people that lurked actually did vote on the poll, that we still only cared about the 60 or 70 regular posters anyway. If I was mistaken about people feeling that way, I apologize, but I don't think I am. I think some people are now backtracking and changing their stance on what they originally were saying.

This makes me crazy. Why the accusations at unnamed parties? I think I come closest to what you are saying here, and it sounds like you think it's some sort of unsavoriness that I should be ashamed of. I will paraphrase what I said to after Ice posted: if there is an issue where lurkers and posters disagree, posters should trump. This seems elementary to me. Why would we have it another way? Why would a whole bunch of people who don't post want things significantly differently from the way posters want it? The whole point is posting.


-t - Aug 01, 2007 3:14:44 pm PDT #647 of 6786
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

These usage numbers are fascinating!


Sean K - Aug 01, 2007 3:15:00 pm PDT #648 of 6786
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, am I understanding your numbers correctly, ita?

There are 235 people who have posted in any way shape or form in the first seven months of 2007.

That amounts to approximately half of the approximately 500 people who actively logged in and read posts in that same time period.

Which compares to 1500 total registrants who actively clicked on their registration link emails, but about 300 of those people (for reasons beyond comprehension) completed registration and yet never actually read anything while logged in.

Have I summarized correctly?


JenP - Aug 01, 2007 3:15:28 pm PDT #649 of 6786

These usage numbers are fascinating!

Yes, they are! Love that kind of stuff.


msbelle - Aug 01, 2007 3:16:10 pm PDT #650 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

even if in some bizarro-land where lurkers would vote opposite the way of posters - Wht the hell would they have spent any significant time reading a board they hated and why would they feel invested enough to vote. I guess it is a possibility, but it is so far off the realm of anything I can even imagine as possible that I am honestly FLOORED that it has occupied time in our collective brains and recieved the amount of attention it has.

Askye is the only person who has volunteered to work with me on the poll. we are starting it now.

maybe we can spend the next 100 posts in Bureaublahblah discussing how many angels can stand on the head of a pin.


§ ita § - Aug 01, 2007 3:17:24 pm PDT #651 of 6786
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Yup, Sean, that's about it.

Some of the registration emails bounce back, because they mistyped--typos may take a larger number than our bouncebacks indicate. Sometimes people registered multiple times, until they got it right, I guess.


Sean K - Aug 01, 2007 3:19:32 pm PDT #652 of 6786
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

And there's no way really to track lurkers who don't log in to read, right? I mean, is there any way of comparing unique hits to the site against logged in readers and gleaning a useful number?

Not that I am demanding or even asking politely for you to do this ita, I'm just trying to understand if it's possible.


P.M. Marc - Aug 01, 2007 3:19:59 pm PDT #653 of 6786
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

maybe we can spend the next 100 posts in Bureaublahblah discussing how many angels can stand on the head of a pin.

Seven. Six if they're fat.

(Where the HELL is that from? As I can't remember the exact numbers, I can't Google it.)


msbelle - Aug 01, 2007 3:21:30 pm PDT #654 of 6786
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

runs to NW to marry Plei.


Denise - Aug 01, 2007 3:23:47 pm PDT #655 of 6786

This makes me crazy. Why the accusations at unnamed parties? I think I come closest to what you are saying here, and it sounds like you think it's some sort of unsavoriness that I should be ashamed of. I will paraphrase what I said to after Ice posted: if there is an issue where lurkers and posters disagree, posters should trump. This seems elementary to me. Why would we have it another way? Why would a whole bunch of people who don't post want things significantly differently from the way posters want it? The whole point is posting.

Not meaning to accuse unnamed parties. You weren't even the first person who pinged me. I purposefully did not name specific posters to avoid this, but people were somehow misinterpreting what I was saying, and I felt the need to make it clear.

I don't think you or anyone else should feel ashamed of anything. I do think your point of view is slightly unsavory, though. Why have an open poll if you're saying one group of potential voters are more important than the other. Have a private poll then, and just invite the 52 people whose opinions matter.

Really not looking to have some dramatic confrontation with anyone. I've said what I have to say on this matter.