runs to NW to marry Plei.

This makes me crazy. Why the accusations at unnamed parties? I think I come closest to what you are saying here, and it sounds like you think it's some sort of unsavoriness that I should be ashamed of. I will paraphrase what I said to after Ice posted: if there is an issue where lurkers and posters disagree, posters should trump. This seems elementary to me. Why would we have it another way? Why would a whole bunch of people who don't post want things significantly differently from the way posters want it? The whole point is posting.

Not meaning to accuse unnamed parties. You weren't even the first person who pinged me. I purposefully did not name specific posters to avoid this, but people were somehow misinterpreting what I was saying, and I felt the need to make it clear.

I don't think you or anyone else should feel ashamed of anything. I do think your point of view is slightly unsavory, though. Why have an open poll if you're saying one group of potential voters are more important than the other. Have a private poll then, and just invite the 52 people whose opinions matter.

Really not looking to have some dramatic confrontation with anyone. I've said what I have to say on this matter.

Askye is the only person who has volunteered to work with me on the poll. we are starting it now.

I'm willing to work on the poll!

I like the data.

Have a private poll then, and just invite the 52 people whose opinions matter.

Good luck getting anyone here to agree "whose opinions matter". Believe me, we're not organized enough to have a cabal.

Not meaning to accuse unnamed parties.

And yet, intentionally or not, that's what you did. I also think you accused them of doing something they haven't done. Dramatic? No. But I do disagree with your interpretation, and I do intend to point that out.

And, again, the numbers aren't going to distinguish between who is a lurker and who isn't, so I really don't see an issue.

David, we're in AIM right now, I'm aliwench if you can ping me I can add you.

Fair enough and I'm sorry for misinterpreting you, Denise.

Why have an open poll if you're saying one group of potential voters are more important than the other.

Yeah, that was what I was saying. I am prejudiced against people who don't post or don't care changing the board for me. I've gone through a hell of a lot of effort today trying to persuade people to my point of view and, I'd be annoyed if two people saw Allyson's book today and came by and voted, "more threads? Why not?!"

dana wins dana wins!

david I will email you my IM.

I thought we were supposed to blame Nilly for everything?

Me = anti-proliferation, don't think lurkers get a say until we get advertisers and they get nielsen boxes for our board, and cilantro grows out of satan's anus.

Well, lurkers do get a say -- any registered person can vote, when we vote. And lurkers do vote. Not in huge numbers, but I think that's fine. I lurk elsewhere, too, and I probably wouldn't vote there, if there were voting there. Because I'm not part of the community. And that's fine, too.